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Tourer
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Atlanta Area | Tim, there are several of us that would be very interested in taking a look at your map once DynoJet works their magic... Many of us are running similar setups to yours....
Thanks,
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Iron Butt
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| I emailed DynoJet over the weekend and they said they are making new exhaust tubes to better test the Vision with and that it should be ready to go in a couple of weeks. I then need to find time from work to get over there and have it done. In the mean time, I am trying to the PCV and AutoTune installed with a workable base map (and trying to get the VM1 map to start with). Sincerely, Tim |
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Tourer
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East TN | Do the new Bosch wide band o2 sensors fit in the exisiting Victory o2 sensor bungs??? |
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Tourer
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Atlanta Area | joe schmoe - 2010-07-06 2:44 PM Do the new Bosch wide band o2 sensors fit in the exisiting Victory o2 sensor bungs??? Yes, straight swap...
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Thus far Lloyd has yet to have a bike with better numbers, or better drivability with these systems. I'm still thinking it is a great way to overcomplicate a very simple system. Not to mention the chance of pulling the threads in the head pipes while removing the OEM sensors |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Webhair - 2010-07-06 10:17 AM
I have mine configure to have a 60 second start up delay before reading the O2 sensors... There is no temp sensor on our bikes that I know of - but have not dug into that end of it.
As for the map. My base map is one that Lloyd provided with the VM1 cams. Then the Auto Tune modules adjusted it from there...
There is a temp sensor on all Vic bikes.
BTW one of the proponents of the PCV in this thread contacted me today about going to a VFC; as he has a couple of concerns that never occurred with his previous bike, and performance wise. There is little to no difference |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Kevin what are you running on your personal bike ? Exhaust, map, intake and so forth, if I remember right you like the thundersticks ? |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | I am still running my VFC, but am really interested in the PC-V with Autotune for altitude and tempurature changes. Not enough to make the plunge yet though. After you helped me to button up my settings the bike runs spanktacular!
Edited by ScoreBo 2010-07-07 3:11 PM
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | i like the idea of the PCV being able to have a swtich as well to toggle between settings as you ride in real time. |
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Tourer
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | Does the PC use manifold vacuum as a reference? I spent a couple of years with a Thundermax with wide band sensors and I would not want to go back to a system that does not use manifold vacuum as a reference. |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | XRsteve - 2010-07-07 3:49 PM
Kevin what are you running on your personal bike ? Exhaust, map, intake and so forth, if I remember right you like the thundersticks ?
Comparing any of my bikes is an apple/orange thing. I ride a KP, and a CC for my personal rides. On those bikes though I run a VFC2 because it is even SIMPLER then the VFC3, and we all know I favor simple solutions.
For Vision pipes I like the Atom Bombs based strictly on sound |
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Puddle Jumper
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Oregon | I have had nothing but problems after installing the Lloydz Vision trifecta... VFCIII, Intake Plate, and AIV. I have read the Lloydz instructions over and over and over, installing EXACTLY AS STATED, trying to interpret and interpolate the stated settings based on my intake/exhaust configuration. I have tried a bazillion other combinations settings. The Lloydz folks are very gracious and generous but a little difficult to get a hold of (partially due to time zone differences).
My 2010 Vision (S1/L2, K&N, stock map) would often cough/stall on throttle blip, sometimes not start, and regularly exhibit engine light errors on the console display. Once I replaced the Intake Plate with the stock plate, the cough/stall stopped, had more "reliable" performance in general, and some errors never re-appeared. Of course, that noticable power increase was also gone. Once I replaced the AIV with a brand new stock AIC hose assembly, I had no starting problems, even more reliable performance, and fewer errors displayed. I think I'm close on the VFCIII settings (3.5/4.0/3.5/0/3.5/3.5) so power is better than stock but still lackluster, which is why I started this whole process. I have no true Victory experts with a Dyno here in Portland OR (that I know of) to confirm. I am very frustrated. Although it's getting better, that feeling of dissatisfaction is a terrible thing on what would normally be a spiritual ride. Not to mention thinking about pi**ing away money.
I am desparate for resolution and closure so I can enjoy my new Vision (hopefully as much as I enjoyed/enjoy my 2007 Kingpin hotrod). The PCV/AutoTune combo is compelling, at least for knowing that you're getting the most from what you have installed. I can live with not having a superfast Vision <sniff><sniff>. I can't live with a slow or unreliable motorcycle.
Expert opinions?... about motorcycle tuning, not my mental health. 
Pat McQ
Edited by PatMcQ 2010-07-11 1:47 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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NC | Now that this thread is a year old, what new experiences can you share with running the Power Commander 5 with the Autotune on a 2008? A year later and Power Commander still doesn't specify their equipment to work on 2008 models. |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | i see now the auto tune model for the vision is no longer the at-100 but Now is at-300 according to power commanders wbersite. my question is. WHO has the CHEAPEST price for this unit???? |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | Chris, I got mine from Hardracing.com for $329. http://www.hardracing.com/Autotune.htm
eBay has one for $333.14 with free shipping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DYNOJET-POWER-COMMANDER-V-AUTOTUNE-KIT-DUAL... |
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Puddle Jumper
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Rossville, IL | Got mine at Dennis Kirk for $303.99 plus free shipping. They will price match as well.
https://www.denniskirk.com/dynojet/autotune-kit-for-power-commander-... |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | thanks guys!!! |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| Fuel Moto used to be $299. |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | just wondering. has anyone on here ever done the (DUAL MAPS)? chris from power commander told me one of the features of the auto tune and pc5 is you can create 2 maps and then disable the auto tuner and use a switch to Switch between the two maps. he said you could do something like this... Create map for best power and then create a map for best fuel economy. one example of using this would be if you were touring on your vision and wanted the Best Mpg.... its just another feature that can be used. from what i understand once you get the auto tune and get your map dialed in there isnt a use for the auto tuner at that point. so you can use the on off switch for dual maps.
he said it also allows you to use a pvc for more than just creating and map and then your done..
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Cruiser
Posts: 216
Danville, CA | Sorry for your troubles.. You really need a pro to do this.. I suggest putting bike on a trailer and taking it to an expert somewhere in CA.. Bill Rohm in Yuba City comes to mind and closest to you...
Jus my 2 cents.. I have had 2 Lloyds modified bikes and love them, but have had them done professionally...
Good luck. Brett |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | Bones - 2012-03-05 7:35 AM
Got mine at Dennis Kirk for $303.99 plus free shipping. They will price match as well.
https://www.denniskirk.com/dynojet/autotune-kit-for-power-commander-...
Damn you, Bones! Where were you two months ago when I bought this! |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | hey scorebo what mods do you have to your 2011? the reason i ask is. i would love to see your map.. if you had the same setup as mine (im not asking for a free map) just a photo of your cells.. i wanted to see how they changed from a stock map.. i know each bike is different. im just very curious |
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Power Commander V and Autotune
