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Cruiser
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| well i thought i had a cure for the right side heat, i took off the heat shields and spent three hours wrapping heat wrap around the header pipes like we used on race cars then i sealed it with ceramic spray header paint . road 3 hours in 100 plus heat and fried my ankle and calf.. i guess it didnt work, ,,... well now do i put the chrome shields on over the wrap or take the wrap off and put it back stock. has anyone else tried something like this ? did it work. tnx, tom |
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Cruiser
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Santa Maria CA | I have not tried the exhaust on my vision. I have used it on race engine were we used heat shield around starters and foot box. It work real well to control the heat. Iwould put the heat shields back on over the exhaust rap. it well hell over the stock set up. let us know how that works? |
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Cruiser
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| yea i will i guess it kind of held the heat on the pipe. maybe the shields will help. this right side heat is a problem in california desert 100 plus makes a difference. at 70-80 it just bakes your ankle and leg. i guess ill slap the deflectors on the side but dont like the looks. tom |
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Santa Maria CA | tom what part of california are you in? I live in santa maris ca but work in paso robles ca. get real warm there. but heat is not to bad to me. still if the rao works i will try it myself. |
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Cruiser
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| i live in springville and also have a place in a.g. at cypess ride golf course. we spend most weekends in a.g. thats the ride i make thru paso.. |
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Tourer
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O'Neill, Nebraska | I'm considering this idea. My Vic dealer in Austin was talking with me the other day and he said they have had great results from doing the following.
They are removing the aluminum Inner Fairing pieces and doing custom metal work on them. They are basically removing about 3/4 inch of the inner metal with a precision saw, buffing it out and then putting them back on the bike. He said that pretty much eliminates the heat issue because it allows more air to flow past the engine, exhaust.
I'm thinking about doing this rather than adding the fairing deflectors because the change is visually unoticeable. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Austin, Texas | spursmvp - 2008-08-02 7:13 AM
I'm considering this idea. My Vic dealer in Austin was talking with me the other day and he said they have had great results from doing the following.
They are removing the aluminum Inner Fairing pieces and doing custom metal work on them. They are basically removing about 3/4 inch of the inner metal with a precision saw, buffing it out and then putting them back on the bike. He said that pretty much eliminates the heat issue because it allows more air to flow past the engine, exhaust.
I'm thinking about doing this rather than adding the fairing deflectors because the change is visually unoticeable.
FYI, this is something that they have NOT done yet. They were in discussions with the Victory engineers and this is what Victory is experimenting with. On paper, it looks like it might work, but to my knowledge, no one has actually tried it yet.
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Tourer
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O'Neill, Nebraska | Although I have not seen a bike with this done....the owner did tell me that they HAVE DONE this.
By they I mean the dealership and their metal workers...probably not Vic. I'm sitting by the wayside until they get this figured out, but would probably lean toward this instead of the deflectors to preserve the look of the bike.
Who knows? |
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Cruiser
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| i say lets try it, i had thought about cutting holes in it myself but that tin would be hard to cut w/o distortion. i wish victory would engineer something. tom |
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Tourer
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Tacoma, WA |
hmmm...I have followed this idea with great interest! A waterjet could be used to cut the panels without distortion, but just where to cut is what I want to know!! ----Metalguy |
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Tourer
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Regina Saskatchewan Canada | My thoughts are that cylinders are much closer to the right side than they are to the left. That means that the right side of the cylinders are better protected from air flow by the aluminum inner fairing than the left side allowing heat to build up on the right side. Perhaps cutting away part of the inside fairing would allow better air flow over the cylinders and not allow for the heat build up on the right side. Did that make any sense? |
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Cruiser
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| i just removed the right side swoosh 2 hr job since i have not been able to get a shop manual later today i will test it out to see if i get some air if so im going to cut out some tin or some holes not sure ,but i ride in the desert alot vegas laughlin , ariz. and i dont like to cook from the sun and the bike... i will figure this thing out eventually.. tom |
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Cruiser
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Leander,Texas | Im going to try changing out my oil filter to a Lifetime oil filter that is metal. I hear this filter increases the flow of oil through the engine faster thus circulating it to the air cool faster and some say it reduces Engine heat on Visions 30 degrees cooler. Ill be putting it on next week and ill get back with you on if it worked or not. |
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Tourer
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O'Neill, Nebraska | I'm the first to admit that I'm not an 'iron worker' however if the collective intelligence of this awesome group can figure it out that would be great! |
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Visionary
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| I just had a look at the right fairing cowl and can't see how cutting this would provide any advantage in fact it would have the counter effect. Currently the cowl rests just inside of the front cylinders outer wall. This serves two purposes. First it forces more air to pass through the cylinder vains and secondly provides negative pressure to force airflow across the oil cooler on the left. So if anything cutting the panel might allow more airflow along the bottom right 6-8 inches of the engine, but it would decrease cooling efficiency to the front cylinder and oil cooler thus increasing engine temps.
The easiest way to tell would be to remove both the right and left cowls and test for the lower leg heat while closely monitoring engine temps. You'd need to get a good oil temp reading with the cowls in place before removing them for comparrison.
Oh and best I can tell you'd only really be able to remove metal from about the height of the rear master cylinder downward. This might allow more cool air to pass across your lower leg and make it feel cooler, maybe...... |
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Cruiser
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| just got back from a 2 hr ride in 100 plus temp in east part of santa maria toward cuama the right swoosh removed and it worked ...the right leg was cool as a cucumber i am going to find some kind of way to machine cut about 2 -3 inches from the inside edge on the same swooshy conture or mabe frence in 3 ovals as long as it doesnt look like a buick...
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Cruiser
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| just got back from a 2 hr ride in 100 plus temp in east part of santa maria toward cuama the right swoosh removed and it worked ...the right leg was cool as a cucumber i am going to find some kind of way to machine cut about 2 -3 inches from the inside edge on the same swooshy conture or mabe frence in 3 ovals as long as it doesnt look like a buick...
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Visionary
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| Tom, do you know what effect running without the cowl had on the oil temps???? |
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Cruiser
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| no dont have a temp gauge, but im telling you it was great not to bake. it was really nice to leave my foot on the floorboard rather than those sticking out too far highway pegs... im going to macine cut the swoosh a couple inches with attention to design of the lines. tom |
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Cruiser
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Santa Maria CA | Tom , sometime send me and email when you are in A. G. My email is in my profile. It would be nice to meet another vision rider. I'd like to see your heat cooling design. |
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Cruiser
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| we are here now,going to church this am maybe a short ride today with Judy, maybe we could tie in . tom |
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Tourer
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northwest florida | not owning a vision at this time, what sort of oil cooler is on the bike? How many rows does it have? is there room for a jagg's oil cooler? just curious..
Edited by a99miata 2008-08-03 12:07 PM
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Cruiser
Posts: 59
| 10 coil rows about 6x8 inches total size |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 810
| FWIW, I have the lifetime oil filter with the heat syncs on them and it didn't lower the temperature at all. I put it on my bike and then test drove it side-by-side with my buddy's Vision. The temperatures were the same or higher. The oil filter is surrounded by the crossover pipe. The heat syncs may be working in reverse and picking up extra heat from the crossover pipes. Sincerely, Tim |
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Cruiser
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Austin, Texas | Regarding the Austin dealer, one of the mechanics there purchased the lower air deflectors the same time as I did. As far as I know he has not put them on his bike. I declined to install them on my silver Vision because the mounts are black and look really ugly on the silver bike.
This tells me the cowl trimming did not fix the heat problem. It remains to be seen if the air deflectors will help because I've not used them. I hope a solution is forthcoming. |
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