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Hampton Va | OK I am ready for the next project geting ready for this trip...Speaker upgrade. Has anyone done it? Any sugestions? I want to keep the cost reasonable.
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Iron Butt
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, FL United States | Do a search for speaker as the topic.There were some previous posts on this subject. |
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Hampton Va | thanks.....did not know i could do that....still new to this |
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Capitol Region of NH | Speakers were the first upgrade I did to my vision. I got the J&M speakers, bought them on E-Bay for what I thought was a very reasonable price. I think they make a huge difference in the quality of the sound, and volume. I highly recommend the upgrade. |
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Iron Butt
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| Ditto the J&M. They offer more clarity and more volume than the stock speakers. I bought 2-pairs at the Laughlin, NV River Run J&M Booth this year and have been running them for @ 5 months. They are more efficient than the stock speakers and are a direct replacement for the stock speakers (no mods to mounting or wiring harness necessary).
HTH, Tim |
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Ruskin, Fl | Check this out.
http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=FSPU-VCTV&PF=34
There is also a pair on ebay, new. 79.95 free shipping.
Edited by cw1115 2008-08-07 9:52 AM
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Hampton Va | should I replace just the front or both??? |
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Ruskin, Fl | I haven't replaced any yet. I would think four is better than two.
Edited by cw1115 2008-08-07 9:54 AM
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Visionary
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Brighton, TN | I personally am more fond of the Polk DB series of speakers. My opinion, better build quality and specs. They are waterproof, marine grade speakers. I will be purchasing these and then see if they need an amp, just for better bass.
Polk makes a very good speaker and very efficient. Good response and aurally pleasing. I have heard, seen and used the polk line just not this exact model. Look like they would fit direct drop in. I was even thinking of getting the separates in this line and attach it on the outside of the speaker grill, I think it would still blend. |
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Brighton, TN | http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/specs/speakers/5-14/db5251/
When I was looking crutchfield even had them buy 1st set and get second set half price. I thought that pretty reasonable. |
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Iron Butt
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| pollolittle - 2008-08-07 6:54 AM ...I personally am more fond of the Polk DB series of speakers. ... FWIW, I tried the Polk Audio db521 5-1/4" marine speaker in my Vision (tested with 1 Polk and 1 J&M). They are heavier and look like they are built much better than the J&M, but ... 1) They are too deep for the front of the Vision. 2) The speaker's spade terminals are too small causing the female connectors to fall off without modification. 3) Are rated at 93dB sensitivity, but produce less volume output than the J&M. I like Polk as well, had them in a car system a while ago. If the Vision had a better amplifier and the Polks would fit, the spade plug size issue could be remedied. HTH, Tim |
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Hampton Va | thanks guys....just ordered 2pr of J&M I will let you know how they come out..... |
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Brighton, TN | too deep as in how. Is it not possible to modify easily to make it fit. I thought they were very close to fitting. Now I need to go find one and see. |
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Iron Butt
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| The front speakers have a cup-shaped gasketed shroud with 4 screw connectors. The speaker pushes this shroud about 1 inch into the fairing, thus moving the screw connectors 1 inch away and creating a gap for water to leak in behind. If you want to use these speakers, you will have to devise a new way to screw the speakers in because there is nothing for the screws to bite into. You will also have to the moisture coming in from the fairing going into the back of the speaker and possibly leaking into the front of the console. Also, remember the decrease in volume unless you are using an external amp. I wish RadioSound would have added pre-amp outs so external amps could be added in a clean manner. HTH, Tim |
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| If anyone is at the vmc meet in Cherokee, NC in August, you can hear my Vision system. It is not loud anymore, it is ridiculously loud.  |
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on the edge of Los Angeles | I Ditto the comments of TimS on the depth of the front fairing as a limitation. The rears however have plenty of room.
I too needed to upgrade/ replace my speakers early on.
One day I got impatient and bought what I thought would work out.
I Installed a set of "Hertz" in the trunk and a set of Pioneers in the fairing. The Hertz were too deep to fit the front.
The Hertz need more power to drive and the Pioneers are a bit "tinny" sounding.
Overall it's not a real good balance and the base is not there although the clarity is very good from the Pioneers.
In retrospect the J&M solution may have been the best alternative to the stock set.
If I did install an amp I am sure that it would be a substantial improvement.
Any one have pics and details of an amp install in there Vision?
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Hampton Va | golfer - 2008-08-07 11:17 AM
If anyone is at the vmc meet in Cherokee, NC in August, you can hear my Vision system. It is not loud anymore, it is ridiculously loud.
when and where is that? |
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Sugar Land, TX (Outside of Houston) | Does the same speaker set fit the fairing and the trunk? So just order 2 sets to swap out all 4?
Richard
Edited by rmclarty 2008-08-07 11:53 AM
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Hampton Va | hope so...I just ordered mine also |
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| racershawn - 2008-08-07 11:45 AM
golfer - 2008-08-07 11:17 AM
If anyone is at the vmc meet in Cherokee, NC in August, you can hear my Vision system. It is not loud anymore, it is ridiculously loud.
when and where is that?
August 28 thru Sept. 1. Cherokee, North Carolina. The Sleep Inn is the official meet hotel, and the Wolfe Campground is the official campers site for the meet. this is the national meet, will be well attended. There is an actaul barbeque trailer going to be there. Rides, fun, etc...I have been excited about this one for the past 2 months. Only 21 days left.
By the way, Lloyd (Victory horsepower guru) will be there with his trailer. Make an appointment soon or you will not get in. My appointment for my Vision is 9:00 Friday morning, getting fuel controller and dyno tune to go along with my current stage 1 and Lloyds diffuser....At a minimum. I am really hoping for more stuff, but not sure if it will be ready by then for the Visions... |
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Iron Butt
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| rmclarty - 2008-08-07 8:53 AM Does the same speaker set fit the fairing and the trunk? So just order 2 sets to swap out all 4? Richard If you look at the J&M website, they show 2 separate listings for front and back speakers and 2 part numbers (FSPU and RSPU).
http://www.jmcorp.com/SeeProducts.asp?PF=34 I really don't know what the difference is, but for the J&M either should fit front or back. Ditto the prior comment that the trunk has more depth for deeper speakers. HTH, Tim |
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Sugar Land, TX (Outside of Houston) | Thanks for the link Tim - I did not see that one on the site. Now I have all 4 on order. |
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Hampton Va | How do you access the speakers? |
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Iron Butt
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| The rear speakers can be changed out using just allen wrenches. The front speakers need allen wrenches and a socket wrench. You have to take off the fairing access panel. Remove the mirrors. Remove the silver bezel around the speedo and tack. Then remove the 2 black perforated speaker covers that the mirrors mount on top of. HTH, Tim |
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Woodland Hills, CA | Just ordered the J&M. Thanks for the input on installing the front, but how do you access the rear speakers? |
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Speakers upgrade?
