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Shyster
Posted 2009-07-24 6:09 PM (#39736)
Subject: Checking oil


Cruiser

Posts: 69
Is it just me or do others have a hard time reading the level on the dipstick?  It doesn't help that you have to screw it in and back it out.  Has anyone painted it white or tried anything else?  Maybe my eye's are going downhill w/the rest of me.
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KansasGuardsman
Posted 2009-07-24 6:42 PM (#39741 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Cruiser

Posts: 208
Wichita, Kansas
I have the same trouble with mine which has a steel stick. Try roughing it up with a little sandpaper. The oil then shows a shiny surface which provides a little contrast with the rough. I just don't screw it in and raise the level visually by 1/2" or so to compensate.
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Vsion
Posted 2009-07-24 9:05 PM (#39756 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: RE: Checking oil


Cruiser

Posts: 114
Southeast, AZ United States
Why check it? Seriously, this is my second Victory (first was a 03 TC 45,000 miles) and I have yet to check the oil. Well not really I checked it regurlarly (first 6 months) on my TC and got tired of not having to add any oil between oil changes so I quit checking it. I haven't heard of anyone with a Victory that has had an issue with oil burning or leaking to the point that they felt they had to check the oil in between oil changes. I haven't had any issues so far and don't plan on checking the oil any time soon... Unless there's a puddle under it or obvious signs of it leaking or burning oil..."don't worry, be happy". My dealer took the dipstick out and added one of those cool chrome plugs...he doesn't check his either.

Ride Safe,

Ken
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varyder
Posted 2009-07-24 9:27 PM (#39757 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I agree with Vsion, and after about 14 oil changes in 20 months it has yet to let me down. I do think they need a better stick and I'm using the chrome one with the gauge in it. When I do check it, is usually right before I change it and if the engine has been off for a while, I right it off the kick for a few seconds, then put it back on the kick. I immediately pull the dipstick and check where it is. Also, if I forgot to check it, when I fill the bottles with the old oil I measure it by the amount that goes in. That is what has worked for me. I also figure if it starts to have a problem, I'll hear it first.
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visionriderdeluxe
Posted 2011-10-13 11:54 PM (#99011 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


New user

Posts: 3
My 09 Vision uses oil, about half a qt every change. I have a Lloydz 114 kit in it and the deler tells me that is par for the course. any feed back on the this? Should I screw in the dip stick once I pull it out and wip it off? It's a real pain in the butt to screw it back in as you know if you own one. Thanks. VRD
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willtill
Posted 2011-10-14 4:41 AM (#99015 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
If you have a hard time seeing the oil on the dipstick, you can gently touch it with the side of your finger; that will show you where the oil is in relation to the dipstick. I do find that fresh oil is hard to see sometimes...
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XRsteve
Posted 2011-10-14 7:50 AM (#99017 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
I got the oil to a perfect level after acouple of in and outs with the dipstick and the oil at operating temp then I notched the dipstick at two places one with the bike upright and one with the bike on it's kickstand, they both work perfectly......it would still be easier to see if the inside part was white plastic...........
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-10-14 12:56 PM (#99045 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 4278
I drilled a small hole in dip stick where full was at. I put bike on 2x4 and thats as close as you get with out being on the bike I think.
You could go one step farther and do a oil change so you know your full. Start bike let the oil fill the filter shut the bike off and now leaning on the kick stand make a mark where your oil level is on the stick. Now if there is no oil on stick put on 2x4 and check it again.
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rainryder
Posted 2011-10-14 7:03 PM (#99061 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
I have a "Condor" thingy that holds the bike upright, it's aluminum, but Harbor Freight has a steel one that's only about 30 bucks. Rolling the Vic into that works like a charm for checking the oil and sure makes it easier to clean the left side when you've been caught out in the rain.
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bigfoot
Posted 2011-10-15 5:39 PM (#99126 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
I admit to burning myself almost every time I check the oil level.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2011-10-15 8:57 PM (#99142 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
It takes oil????
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DannyB
Posted 2011-10-15 11:09 PM (#99145 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Tourer

Posts: 554
2 mi from Jim Beam n KY
Unless I miss read the manual, you unscrew the dip stick, wipe it off, then just stick it in, dont screw it in, and lift and read the level......
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vwfarm
Posted 2011-10-16 3:25 AM (#99152 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Cruiser

Posts: 51
Ennis, Tx
Does any have a dip stick with the oil temp on the end of the dip stick?? If so - any pro's or con's..
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varyder
Posted 2011-10-16 5:24 AM (#99155 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
My first mod was the dip stick with the temp gage, only because it was chrome and it had a dial on it that looked cool. There is no difference in how you read the oil level.
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willtill
Posted 2011-10-16 6:44 AM (#99158 - in reply to #99155)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
varyder - 2011-10-16 6:24 AM

My first mod was the dip stick with the temp gage, only because it was chrome and it had a dial on it that looked cool. There is no difference in how you read the oil level.


Hey Varyder... that chromed dipstick with the temp gauge; does the gauge "turn" so it can be read at a different angle, once the dipstick is screwed in tight? I have one as well, and the dealer said your could reorient the gauge... but I am a little leery of apply what seems to be a lot of force the the gauges bevel. Doesn't seem to want to rotate.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2011-10-16 7:23 AM (#99159 - in reply to #99152)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
vwfarm - 2011-10-16 3:25 AM

Does any have a dip stick with the oil temp on the end of the dip stick?? If so - any pro's or con's..


i have had 3 of the dipstick that do the oil temp.. i like it as it dresses that area a little more and it lets you know whats going on with your oil, as far as getting very hot or what not.. the pros are.. able to monitor your internal oil temp if stuck in traffic...

cons.. they are made like $hit.. im on my 3rd one... 1st one victory covered under warranty 2nd one they did not. and the 3rd one i just bought 2 months about when i bought my 2nd vision... so far the 3rd one has been ok. but the problem has been, WATER gets into the lens area of the dipstick and them its ruined...
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2011-10-16 7:27 AM (#99161 - in reply to #99158)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
willtill - 2011-10-16 6:44 AM

varyder - 2011-10-16 6:24 AM

My first mod was the dip stick with the temp gage, only because it was chrome and it had a dial on it that looked cool. There is no difference in how you read the oil level.


Hey Varyder... that chromed dipstick with the temp gauge; does the gauge "turn" so it can be read at a different angle, once the dipstick is screwed in tight? I have one as well, and the dealer said your could reorient the gauge... but I am a little leery of apply what seems to be a lot of force the the gauges bevel. Doesn't seem to want to rotate.



it DOES turn... so you CAN view it from different angles
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willtill
Posted 2011-10-16 7:39 AM (#99162 - in reply to #99161)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Arkainzeye - 2011-10-16 8:27 AM

willtill - 2011-10-16 6:44 AM

varyder - 2011-10-16 6:24 AM

My first mod was the dip stick with the temp gage, only because it was chrome and it had a dial on it that looked cool. There is no difference in how you read the oil level.


Hey Varyder... that chromed dipstick with the temp gauge; does the gauge "turn" so it can be read at a different angle, once the dipstick is screwed in tight? I have one as well, and the dealer said your could reorient the gauge... but I am a little leery of apply what seems to be a lot of force the the gauges bevel. Doesn't seem to want to rotate.



it DOES turn... so you CAN view it from different angles



Do you grab the bezel of the gauge with pliers; padded jaw I would assume? I don't want to break it or snap it off....
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varyder
Posted 2011-10-16 8:04 AM (#99166 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
it doesn't take that much to turn while you have it out. also, yes, it is not good on the bezel, but it gives it the retro look.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-10-16 10:46 AM (#99177 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 4278
What makes you think that temp gauge is accurate? I bet if you con paired it to a cooking thermometer you would find out its off.
Heat a pan of water and check them out.
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bigfoot
Posted 2011-10-16 11:53 AM (#99181 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
DannyB wrote;
Unless I miss read the manual, you unscrew the dip stick, wipe it off, then just stick it in, dont screw it in, and lift and read the level......

You read it wrong.

My owners manual, page 40, states;
4. On level ground, straddle the motorcycle and bring
it to the fully upright position.
5. Remove the oil fill cap/dipstick and wipe it
clean. Reinstall the dipstick and turn the
cap clockwise until it seats.
6. Remove the dipstick and view the oil level.
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StanLaurel
Posted 2011-10-16 11:56 AM (#99182 - in reply to #99145)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 34
Robins AFB, GA
Nope - you misread it. It has to be screwed in to get a true reading. Also the bike is supposed to be a operating temp, which means burnt fingers. Not the most brilliant design.....

DannyB - 2011-10-15 11:09 PM

Unless I miss read the manual, you unscrew the dip stick, wipe it off, then just stick it in, dont screw it in, and lift and read the level......
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varyder
Posted 2011-10-16 12:29 PM (#99185 - in reply to #99177)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
john frey - 2011-10-16 11:46 AM

What makes you think that temp gauge is accurate? I bet if you con paired it to a cooking thermometer you would find out its off.
Heat a pan of water and check them out.


personally, I never said it was accurate. At best it looks pretty and a good source of entertainment. Since Vic motors do not overheat, I'm not worried about.
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donetracey
Posted 2011-10-16 12:40 PM (#99186 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
Dipstick? Oh yeah - the thing my Dealer twiddles when he does my oil changes. Or a person of questionable moral turpitude.

I check my oil by looking at the floor under the bike and end of the exhaust pipes. Worked for me this past 50 years ...
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donetracey
Posted 2011-10-16 1:30 PM (#99190 - in reply to #39736)
Subject: Re: Checking oil


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
I just remembered my Yamaha Virago's had a little window you could peer into to see the oil level. I never bothered with that, either....

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