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Lumber Bridge, NC United States | this guy just bought this vision and never got to enjoy it. thing is I was just in this same area on the same day.
LUMBERTON - A Robeson County motorcyclist was killed Saturday in a collision on Alamac Road about a mile south of Lumberton, the Highway Patrol said.
The wreck happened at 10:12 p.m. at the intersection of Reel Road, according to a report filed by Trooper H.P. Locklear.
The vehicle's driver, Gerrad O'Brien Cooper, 17, of the 700 block of West 28th Street in Lumberton, was traveling south when he turned left onto Reel Road, the report said.
Cooper's 1999 Lexus turned into the path of the 2008 Victory motorcycle operated by William Harold Causey, 45, of 4660 Beulah Church Road in Lumberton, Locklear said.
The head-on collision killed Causey and seriously injuring his passenger, 32-year-old Vaylene Kay Klassen, of the same address, Locklear said.
Klassen was flown to Cape Fear Valley Medical Center with serious injuries, 1st Sgt. Freddy Johnson said. A hospital spokeswoman said Klassen was not listed as a patient on Monday night.
Cooper and his passenger, Tyrell Stevens, 18, of the 1900 block of Martin Luther King Jr. Drive in Lumberton, were treated at the scene for minor injuries, Johnson said.
No charges had been filed as of Monday morning, Johnson said.
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| "Cooper's 1999 Lexus turned into the path of the 2008 Victory motorcycle "
No charges had beem filed as of Monday...  WTF |
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Cedar, Michigan | Every day is a gift, act accordingly my friends. |
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San Antonio, TX | Mattchristiani - 2011-06-17 4:11 PM
Every day is a gift, act accordingly my friends.
+1 So true
What a crying shame.... |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Let me guess, 'I didn't see him' because you weren't looking were you dirtbag? |
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New Bohemia, Va | My prayers go out to the repective family, what a senseless tragedy.
I wish to know the detail of what exactly happened but we may never know. The driver may be up on charges, but that won't bring back our friend Causey. My wife is more nervous now in riding in seeing the crazy traffic out there and I don't blame her. I watch extra careful and lookout for these trouble areas for things just like this, and so far the anticipation has paid off. My biggest concern is getting rearended when trying to avoid this kind of things because the idiots are not paying attention behind me.
Just ride safe everyone. |
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| texting and driving? |
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New Bohemia, Va | IndyVision - 2011-06-17 8:01 PM
texting and driving?
lastest article says he was pulling into a private drive and possible charges pending.
frankly, drivers are getting out of line with all kinds of infractions. We can either become more keenly aware of the stupidity, collide, or give up riding all together. I prefer to become more aware of my surroundings. |
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Lynchburg Virginia | RonBou - 2011-06-17 5:10 PM "Cooper's 1999 Lexus turned into the path of the 2008 Victory motorcycle " No charges had beem filed as of Monday... WTF
+1 How the HECK! NO CHARGES? |
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Cedar, Michigan | IndyVision - 2011-06-17 9:01 PM
texting and driving?
Funny you should mention that. I was going up a two lane just yesterday, the kid in the oncoming lane was actually in MY lane. Both hands firmly grasped on his phone, with his wrists resting atop the steering wheel, texting away as I passed him in HIS lane. What a jackass !!!
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | This may seem like an insensitive comment and is in no way saying that the
Lexus driver should be left off the hook but the incidents of accidents while operating a new vehicle is way higher. When I purchased the Vision and drove it at night I had a hard time paying attention to the road and not the way the instruments and dash lights looked. |
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Indiana | Before every ride I remind myself of three things:
1. I can get killed riding this thing.
2. Drivers in cars and trucks can't see me.
3. Even if they can, they may not stop.
Prayers to the family. |
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Republic of Tejas | "I didn't see him" has always been the legal defense to getting away with vehicular manslaughter! Flames my butt but that's the way it is. Riding at night is something I try to avoid other than my daily work commute at 4:30 a.m.
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| man i hope you guys aren't on my jury if i ever need one. Guilty until proven innocent i guess. These things aren't called "purposes" for a reason, thats why they are called accidents. Now if the driver was negligent or reckless I am sure the investigation will bring this out and the book will be thrown at the driver and rightfully so, I'll be the first to volunteer to dig the ditch to put him under the jail. With all we don't know, to be calling for someones head without any facts is reckless, fruitless, and un-American. I am sure the investigation will bring out the fact, if not the riders family will handle it as they see fit.
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Central New York | Not to re-hash a contested subject, on second thought, let's. I installed a headlight modulator last year on my '08 Vision. To say it works would be conjecture, so let me just say that I haven't had any "close calls" since the installation. If fact I no longer have those annoying instances where people pull out of a side street into my "safety" zone. What I have noticed is a huge number of instances where I'll see a vehicle off in the distance, on a side street, where they seem to start and stop again. I think (my impression only) is that the modulating headlight forces them to consciously re-evaluate the distance between them and me, and they wait. Bottom line is that nothing is going to make a 1200# GVW vehicle safe against a 4000# GVW vehicle, but to not take advantage of any edge technology can offer is, well, just stupid. In my humble opinion, of course. 
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Modesto Ca. | 90% of the people don't see you and 10% are trying to run you over. Just keep that in mind when out on a ride.It mite help keep you a live.
Its worked for me for 40 years now. |
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San Antonio, TX | Radman - 2011-06-19 1:31 PM
90% of the people don't see you and 10% are trying to run you over. Just keep that in mind when out on a ride.It mite help keep you a live.
Its worked for me for 40 years now.
Some days it feels like 10% of the people don't see you and 90% are trying very hard to run you over.
Ride Safe
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Republic of Tejas | jeffmack - 2011-06-19 10:51 AM
man i hope you guys aren't on my jury if i ever need one. Guilty until proven innocent i guess. These things aren't called "purposes" for a reason, thats why they are called accidents. Now if the driver was negligent or reckless I am sure the investigation will bring this out and the book will be thrown at the driver and rightfully so, I'll be the first to volunteer to dig the ditch to put him under the jail. With all we don't know, to be calling for someones head without any facts is reckless, fruitless, and un-American. I am sure the investigation will bring out the fact, if not the riders family will handle it as they see fit.
Your absolutely right Jeff. I guess I miss-read the quote from the investigating officer....
"Cooper's 1999 Lexus turned into the path of the 2008 Victory motorcycle operated by William Harold Causey, 45, of 4660 Beulah Church Road in Lumberton, Locklear said"
My reaction was to that statement, and the hundreds of times I've read it over the years as well as to the statement of the lady who turned in front of me taking me out years ago shattering my right knee and femur.
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Bullhead City, AZ | In Bismarck an elderly lady was in the wrong lane , hit two bikes one rider lost his foot and the other rider lost his new wife "pregnant" of 4 days who was a passenger on the bike. Niether rider had a helmet and the second rider although an experienced rider was not licensed for the bike. The rider got a 20$ ticket for no license and and the ekderly got a 20 $ ticket for care required. No charges were filed against her mostly because of her age and the suffering that the memory of killing another would be "punishment enough." They did not even take her drivers lisence away. Until she did it again 2 months later. Then they filed charges. Ask yourself if this would have been a kid hitting the bikes would they have been charged. It is not just kids texting or being distracted that are dangerous, you have to realize that the bike has super powers that make it invisable to most drivers. |
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| First off NO one should make a judgement call from what they read or hear from the media. When I did jury duty years ago not one article had anything to do with the court proceedings on that day or any day for that matter. I learned then why you are not allowed to listen or read media during jury duty. They are out to sell advertising not tell the truth.
When someone says, "I'm sorry, I didn't see you." I ask how many cats or squirrels have they run over? It's hard to believe that people worry more about animals than humans.
The point missed here is once again who has been teaching this person to drive for the last 17 years of his life? Mom and Dad. All of us need to teach by example. |
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Albuquerque, NM | glighto11 - 2011-06-19 11:29 AM
Not to re-hash a contested subject, on second thought, let's. ?I installed a headlight modulator last year on my '08 Vision. To say it works would be conjecture, so let me just say that I haven't had any "close calls" since the installation. If fact I no longer have those annoying instances where people pull out of a side street into my "safety" zone. What I have noticed is a huge number of instances where I'll see a vehicle off in the distance, on a side street, where they seem to start and stop again. I think (my impression only) is that the modulating headlight forces them to consciously re-evaluate the distance between them and me, and they wait. Bottom line is that nothing is going to make a 1200# GVW vehicle safe against a 4000# GVW vehicle, but to not take advantage of any edge technology can offer is, well, just stupid. In my humble opinion, of course. ? ?
I was riding home from work the other day and while checking my rear view mirror, noticed a motorcyclist coming up behind me at a distance was running a headlight modulator. My first thought was that it was a cop with his emergency lights on. I backed off the throttle and was ready to pull off to the shoulder when I realized his flashing lights weren't colored and it wasn't a cop. That first thought and hesitation on my part (imho) is probably what makes the headlight modulator reduce the number of "close calls" you speak of.
Is there a plug and play unit for the vision that can be switched on/off. I recently lost a very good friend and the ride leader for our group to a drunk driver. It was tough for me to get back on my vision and lead a memorial ride to his favorite destination. I would like one of these units on my bike when I lead and the ability to turn it off when I'm just part of the pack.
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New Bohemia, Va | Distraction - takes your focus off what is truly business at hand to look at the flashing light. Sure, it will be argued the other way, but I find the modulator totally unnecessary. I've reduced the number of close calls by paying more attention of what the signs and the potential manuevers of people knowing they don't see me. I don't need to call attention to me by others who neither of us pose a threat too, i.e. flashing lights coming up behind me that is not an emergency vehicle. Don't give yourself a false sense of security, that will take you out.
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| Hey Nailer, the headlight modulator plugs into the high beam circuit so in order to turn it off you just switch to low beams, there is a sensor that disables the modulator at night. |
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| When I ride i'm glad to be alive, when i'm done riding i'm glad to be alive.
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Central New York | nailer - 2011-06-20 9:38 AM glighto11 - 2011-06-19 11:29 AM Not to re-hash a contested subject, on second thought, let's. ?I installed a headlight modulator last year on my '08 Vision. To say it works would be conjecture, so let me just say that I haven't had any "close calls" since the installation. If fact I no longer have those annoying instances where people pull out of a side street into my "safety" zone. What I have noticed is a huge number of instances where I'll see a vehicle off in the distance, on a side street, where they seem to start and stop again. I think (my impression only) is that the modulating headlight forces them to consciously re-evaluate the distance between them and me, and they wait. Bottom line is that nothing is going to make a 1200# GVW vehicle safe against a 4000# GVW vehicle, but to not take advantage of any edge technology can offer is, well, just stupid. In my humble opinion, of course. ? ?
I was riding home from work the other day and while checking my rear view mirror, noticed a motorcyclist coming up behind me at a distance was running a headlight modulator. My first thought was that it was a cop with his emergency lights on. I backed off the throttle and was ready to pull off to the shoulder when I realized his flashing lights weren't colored and it wasn't a cop. That first thought and hesitation on my part (imho) is probably what makes the headlight modulator reduce the number of "close calls" you speak of. Is there a plug and play unit for the vision that can be switched on/off. I recently lost a very good friend and the ride leader for our group to a drunk driver. It was tough for me to get back on my vision and lead a memorial ride to his favorite destination. I would like one of these units on my bike when I lead and the ability to turn it off when I'm just part of the pack.Most modulator just plug in between the headlight bulb and original connector. The Vision requires one built for a 2 bulb system. I have run one for over a year and have no complaints from any other drivers. No "pull overs" etc. You can definitely see a difference in the distance people give you. I know some people say they are unnecessary, but that is just stupid talk. Just because they are too cheap, too lazy, or think it is visually un-cool, is not justification to declare a proven safety device unnecessary. many thing we use on a bike are unnecessary, doesn't mean it's smart to leave home without them.
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this guy just bought this vision
