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Posted 2011-07-08 6:52 PM (#90467)
Subject: Tip-overs on Visions


Tourer

Posts: 500
Today I went down in a turn around road side stop..A fellow rider had to use the port-o-potty and we pulled into the lot that was mostly dirt and gravel..I turned to sharp leaving the lot, barely moving, and down she went on the left side...Hardly any damage, a few knicks in rear tip-over edge, which I touched up. Thanks Victory for this great innovation as it saved, potentially, a lot of otherwise damage to a $24,000 motorcycle......
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SYNSTR
Posted 2011-07-08 8:07 PM (#90471 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
YEP! Ya won't find those on a Flintstones Flyer now willya? 'potoato-potato' that.
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bigfoot
Posted 2011-07-08 9:07 PM (#90478 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
Touch your front brake at slow speed with the wheel turned and you should expect to go down.
Rear brake only when traveling at slow speed.

Tip overs on the Vision are absolutely necessary!
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wtwhitelaw
Posted 2011-07-08 9:44 PM (#90480 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 262
Flowery Branch Ga
I like mine so much that I've used them several times, always work great!



Wayne
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sfalexi
Posted 2011-07-08 9:44 PM (#90481 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Tourer

Posts: 307
Columbia, SC
Definitely nice to have. Almost dropped out backing out of the driveway this morning - have to back out at about a 30 degree incline and the driveways don't have a smooth entrance to the street. Some wierd thing where the curb is the same whether it's the sidewalk or driveway. But I wasn't TOO worried with these tipover guards.

Alexi

PS - Done the gravel thing too. It happens.
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Mikeebiker
Posted 2011-07-12 9:38 AM (#90703 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 101
Springfield, TN
I was at the back of the line of about 20 "brand X" riders I caught up to Saturday and the leader dropped his dresser at a stop sign... his passenger laid flat on her back for a minute... probably too embarrassed to get up and look behind her. My question would be; what did that cost? He dumped it pretty hard all the way over onto the fairings, saddlebags and handlebars. Glad to see them get up and back on ok but it wouldn't have been near as bad on a Vision... just as embarrassing but not nearly as expensive. Hope the guy wasn't with a "date"... she didn't seem to be too impressed with the whole deal.

I'm like wtwhitelaw... I use 'em all the time. Actually do use them when polishing the left side pipes and chrome. (I place a couple short pieces of 2 x 12 board stacked on the floor and lay it over on them... not as hard to pick up.)

Edited by Mikeebiker 2011-07-12 9:40 AM
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-07-12 5:52 PM (#90726 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Visionary

Posts: 4278
Vision are the best if you have a tip over.



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adirondacks
Posted 2011-07-12 9:14 PM (#90749 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Tourer

Posts: 323
Troy, NY
It's laying so comfortably - LOL!
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Mr Sug
Posted 2011-07-12 11:39 PM (#90760 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 117
Kansas City, MO
did that in the garage - watch out for the walls....
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jgn281
Posted 2011-07-13 8:49 AM (#90764 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 73
Sullivan, IN United States
Yep, dumped mine over in a DQ parking lot. I just knew the bike was going down hard and it scared the crap out of me cause now I figure I am going to be pinned underneath it untill someone can get it off of me. However she came to rest on the tip overs, I crawled out from underneath it, unhurt except for my pride, stood her back up and took off again. Thanks to the engineers at Victory you saved me some $$$ that time.
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K2V2
Posted 2011-07-13 9:41 AM (#90767 - in reply to #90764)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 162
Northern NJ
IMHO the best thing to do once the Vision tips past the point of no return is keep your feet on the boards and hold on.
In most cases a human leg is not as effective as a tipover protector.

Edited by K2V2 2011-07-13 9:45 AM
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K2V2
Posted 2011-07-13 9:42 AM (#90768 - in reply to #90703)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 162
Northern NJ
Mikeebiker - 2011-07-12 10:38 AM

Actually do use them when polishing the left side pipes and chrome. (I place a couple short pieces of 2 x 12 board stacked on the floor and lay it over on them... not as hard to pick up.)


I like this idea!
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ukmal
Posted 2011-07-14 9:20 AM (#90839 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: RE: Tip-overs on Visions


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 8
Welcome from across the pond.

Ref the tip-overs; it's good to see that it's not just me who has had to use them. Always at slow speeds though. My friend and his wife dropped theirs on a road with a difficult camber at about 20mph and he couldn't believe how effective they were.
Take care, ride safe
Mal
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wingit3611
Posted 2011-07-14 10:09 AM (#90842 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 244
+ 2 on how well they work. Dump mine twice on one inch thick mud coming out of the Harley Renzdevous in NY. mud and of camber road with fully loaded bike don't mix. Not one bit of damage just a lot of mud on the under body. Great design Victory!!
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Beaveroo
Posted 2011-07-16 9:18 AM (#90918 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 7
Coquitlam, B.C. Canada
Great reminder to take the front disk lock off in the morning ( hell of a way to wake up )
Great site.

Mike
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digger1
Posted 2011-07-16 11:02 AM (#90925 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 13
Leaned mine over last night (on purpose) in the garage for the first time (did remember to take into account the garage walls...lol). Saw the salesman do it at the dealer but first time doing it myself. Kinda gives you an empty feeling in your stomach doing it the first time hoping it stops on the way down! Great feature knowing how it works now.
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2011-07-17 5:32 AM (#90976 - in reply to #90839)
Subject: RE: Tip-overs on Visions


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
ukmal - 2011-07-14 9:20 AM

Welcome from across the pond.

Ref the tip-overs; it's good to see that it's not just me who has had to use them. Always at slow speeds though. My friend and his wife dropped theirs on a road with a difficult camber at about 20mph and he couldn't believe how effective they were.
Take care, ride safe
Mal


I must have had some bad luck then......

I put mine on the ground at about 10mph......approaching some railroad tracks the front end washed out in a pothole.

Bent the right tip over up against the engine, the bike continued over on its side....busted plastic fairing, boards, etc......$4050 worth of damage.

Ive used them in the garage for cleaning, maintenance etc - was really expecting them to be robust enough to take a slow speed drop.....surprised me when I looked back at the bike all the way over on the ground, was expecting to see it just setting there waiting for me.....sadly it was not to be.
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Handyhoward
Posted 2011-07-18 7:35 AM (#91047 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: RE: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 92
Fort Walton Beach, FL
Anybody given any consideration that the engineers who designed the "tipovers" knew that they had a top heavy bike that is prone to "tipping over"? Bikes shouldn't tip over... they only have two wheels, but should be designed and counted on to remain upright. I have been riding all style of bike for 47 years... never an accident or "drop" until I rode this Vision. Now the count is 4... yes 4 drops at slow speed. AND I have figured out the reason... top heavy design... radial tires with a soft sidewall... and too much "turn" in the front end. It's either "high side" it or drop it................

This is the only thing that I do not like about this bike... Polaris and their Victory engineers should be working more diligently on reducing the number of tip overs by design improvements that lower the center of gravity and the development of a front tire which can support the weight at slow speeds.

This bike could very well be the best touring bike ever, but it needs to be safer at slower speeds...ie stopping and pulling up to a fuel pump... especially when you are riding 2 up!!!
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2011-07-19 12:02 AM (#91120 - in reply to #91047)
Subject: RE: Tip-overs on Visions


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
Handyhoward - 2011-07-18 7:35 AM

Anybody given any consideration that the engineers who designed the "tipovers" knew that they had a top heavy bike that is prone to "tipping over"? Bikes shouldn't tip over... they only have two wheels, but should be designed and counted on to remain upright. I have been riding all style of bike for 47 years... never an accident or "drop" until I rode this Vision. Now the count is 4... yes 4 drops at slow speed. AND I have figured out the reason... top heavy design... radial tires with a soft sidewall... and too much "turn" in the front end. It's either "high side" it or drop it................

This is the only thing that I do not like about this bike... Polaris and their Victory engineers should be working more diligently on reducing the number of tip overs by design improvements that lower the center of gravity and the development of a front tire which can support the weight at slow speeds.

This bike could very well be the best touring bike ever, but it needs to be safer at slower speeds...ie stopping and pulling up to a fuel pump... especially when you are riding 2 up!!!


Guess I didnt think the bike was all that top heavy.....not even close to as top heavy as a GL1500 Goldwing, atleast in my opinion.

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donetracey
Posted 2011-07-19 12:49 AM (#91123 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
Dang - I feel "left out of the club"....
My Vision is so perfect - I haven't come close to finding out what y'all are talking about. And I hope I don't !!!
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jmjonz
Posted 2011-07-19 9:15 PM (#91189 - in reply to #90726)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 5
Wow! Not a scratch I'm thinking either huh?
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-07-19 10:17 PM (#91206 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
I was waiting in line to pull in to the start of a poker run in Erie PA there was many bikes ahead I shut Deer crusher off and hoped off.

The bikes in front of me started to pull in I reached over and hit the key I had left her in first she jumped forward off the stand and the rear tipover pinned my right foot to the pavement. A rookie move it not only hurt so bad I could not free myself it was in front of Harley people.

A bear sized HOG guy helped set me free. Had MC boots on so I was badly bruised and limping but still had five toes intact.

Edited by Trekwolf164 2011-07-19 10:18 PM
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-08-01 1:43 PM (#92264 - in reply to #91206)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
Donna and I landed on the tips today in a sloped parking area I stoped on an incline nose up when I leaned left we all went over Donna hit the pavement with her shoulder. No damage just stoped on both tips. Donna is well and I never left my seat. I swear Donna was leaning and that was the issue but she says I should have never stopped moving.

It was very warm
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HLUSN8
Posted 2011-08-01 1:54 PM (#92268 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Cruiser

Posts: 164
Quad Cities, IL
I love my tip-overs (3x)...and so does my dealer! I had to laugh when they were recently servicing my bike and I went in the back to chat it up and the bike was sitting on the tip-overs for easier access to their work. LOL Works for them.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2011-08-01 5:55 PM (#92294 - in reply to #90467)
Subject: Re: Tip-overs on Visions


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
The tip-overs work great. I purposely demonstrate them frequently to non-believing brand X riders. That is followed by a demo of how easy I can upright the bike by myself.
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