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Jasper, MO | PhantomX - 2013-12-30 2:22 PM
yes the ground clearance can be a bit to work around but it's not that much shorter than the Vision and if you take the right line and right speed you won't be dragging it that much. I also am a former sport bike rider and racer (600's) and also owned 2 ZX14's, Busa's, 600's, BMW's and the list goes on and I can hustle either bike through the twisties at about the same pace, edge to the wing because it simply has more power. If you were to time trial each on a track the wing would beat it, it simply has way more power stock vs stock and the minor difference it may loose in a corner in clearance (and its probably an inch or two) it more than makes up for in torque and pulling power. The Wing simply has power everywhere, I know I ride them both, currently and my F6B is even better, more clearance, lower motor, less top heavy, feels like a toy and you can sling it around quite handily.
At the end of the day it's the skill of the rider that determines the victor but 2 equally skilled riders and the Vic doesn't have the power stock to keep up. Sure you can spend $1200 to make it "as quick" (again rider dependent) as a stock Wing and that's cool that a Twin can do that. And it's not that much smaller of a Twin it is after all 1771cc's to the GoldWings 1832cc's.
Again we can brand bash all we want but the spec sheet doesn't lie the more powerful bike with about the same handling with equal riders and it's pretty easy to see the outcome. I love them both dearly, I really do and for me they feel very very similar...
Who is "bashing"? I've already said I like the Hondas. I'm a former Goldwing owner myself, and still have two other Hondas. I'm just reporting real world experiences, which do not necessarily align with magazine statistics and reporting. There is more to the story than statistical vertical ground clearance differences and peak reported horsepower and torque numbers. There are real world factors such as lean angle, gearing differences, and engine speeds vs road speeds, and actual rear wheel power vs advertised power (driveline losses and gearing--the GW is most efficient in 4th gear and the Vision is most efficient in 5th gear).
When we made the last trip to the "Dragon", my Vision was 100% stock-- no Lloydz upgrades yet at that time. The stock Vision has plenty of power to keep up at the low speeds of the "Dragon", and I was often backing off to keep from running over the Goldwing in front of me. He was laying it over as far as possible, grinding down in nearly every turn, while the Vision had clearance to spare. He is a skilled rider, as good as myself. The difference is the cornering clearance. It is more than the "spec sheets" might make it seem. That wide flat six motor and its stock engine guard find the ground much sooner than the floorboards of the narrow engined Vision does. That's a fact, not theory. I will say that the Goldwing is easier to "hang off of" than the Vision, due to the mid-controls, if you are both riding to that extreme. So is my old Sport Cruiser for that matter, for the same reason--mid controls. In the case I cited on the "Dragon", all four bikes were riding double. The Goldwings were grinding down, the Vision wasn't, and the couple on the ZX14 didn't have the cornering experience needed to keep up with the "luxury barges" in the corners. BTW, after that trip, the ZX14 owner traded it in on a Goldwing. The ZX14 seemed to be lacking in comfort and luggage capacity for a 2500 mile trip ( he hauled the ZX14 to Deals Gap, and rejoined us there for riding in the area), and he was sufficiently impressed by the handling of the "luxury barges".
Now, as far as ultimate straight line power comparisons between the GL1800 Goldwing and the Vision, I have in my hand a receipt for the mods done to my Vision that comes to a total, including parts, labor, and tax, of $1065.78, and it was done by one of the top Victory tuners in the USA, a man well known on these forums. Prices have increased since then. The resulting real world power is more than that of a GL1800 Goldwing, and I have the timeslips to prove it. Again the fellow on the Goldwing is a top notch rider and has many dragstrip trophies to prove it, some gained with the Goldwing in question. He has won 1st place a couple of times at the all-bike drags with that Goldwing, against some very fast bikes. He's good. If anything, he is a better rider than myself. His 60 foot times show it too (1.70s to my 1.80s). My Vision is still faster than his Goldwing, by about 3/10ths and 4 MPH on any given day. He has likely spent more money on plasti-chrome decorations for his Goldwing than I spent on performance upgrades for the Vision. He still has a 9.90 class Suzuki, but these days gets more enjoyment out of going to the dragstrip and beating everybody with his Goldwing. He doesn't have to haul it to the track or carry tools and race gas, and it's fun watching those "fast bikes" try to figure out why they are getting beaten to the end of the track (rider skill).
Before the upgrades, in 5th gear passing maneuvers, the 100% stock Vision was a dead even match for the Goldwing from 50 to 100 MPH. The GW would begin to pull away after 100 MPH. Since the upgrades, the Vision walks away from the Goldwing in the same scenerio, and really starts to pull a big lead after about 115 MPH. The Goldwing is done by 120, unless there is a tailwind, then it gains a little more, but it will never see 130 as verified by a GPS. The GW speedometer claims as much as 134 MPH, but the GPS says otherwise. Subtract 10. The Vision has at least 10 MPH more top end speed than the Goldwing in any situation now, in the real world (not exactly sure just how much--he has the GPS and can't keep up). The stock Vision speed limiter restricted it to 120 MPH, no matter which way the wind was blowing, GPS verified. Mine isn't restricted anymore. My particular Vison's speedometer is amazingly accurate according to the GPS, and I 've seen 135+ MPH on it. The GW was quite a ways behind by then.
The statement that the Goldwing "simply has power everywhere" implies that the Vision doesn't. However, if you look at the dyno charts for the Goldwing and a Lloydz cammed Vision, you will find that the Victory V-Twin actually has a powerband that is wider than that of the Goldwing (the GW peaks at 5500 to 5580 RPM depending on the year model, and the Victory peaks at 5750 with the VM1 cams) and the Victory has more rear-wheel torque than the Honda, and it lasts over a wider range, and most importantly, has more average torque over the range of RPMs seen when flogging through the gears. That is why it is quicker through the quarter mile. A lot of the difference in perception is due to the smooth even firing pulses of the six cylinder Honda vs the uneven firing pulses of the V-Twin, especially down low. Add to that the fact that the Honda is geared lower in 1st gear than the Victory, which makes it "feel more powerful" at low speeds. That fact also helps the GW "lug down" to a lower speed than the Vision in 1st gear. The GW is moving 4.3% slower MPH at any given RPM than the Victory when both are in 1st gear. Perception isn't reality. Reality is taking two bikes out on the road or dragstrip and doing dragstrip runs or roll-on tests in real time. The cammed Vision wins both the drag race and the roll-on contest. Not by a lot, but by a clear margin. BTW, the scales put his Goldwing and rider at 1120 pounds and my Vision and myself at 1100 pounds. Not enough difference to really matter.
Theories, stats, and magazine articles are one thing. The real world is another.
Rider skill is certainly a factor, as the folks on the ZX14 found out. Lots of power doesn't mean much if you don't know how to take a fast line through a tight corner. He's learning. He has been following us "old guys".
I've already agreed that the Hondas are great bikes too. Different strokes for different folks. I'll get the chance to take an F6B out for a test ride one of these days. It will be interesting to see how it performs next to a Goldwing and a Vision in the real world. Never know, I might want one.
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Clinton, CT | I kinda wondered the same thing... After riding the 2013 Vision for a bit then testing out a CCT at a Demo Day a few months back, no doubt I am on the right bike.
I wouldn't mind the added side-bag capacity but that is where it ends. The Vision is a much better handling, better riding and better fit overall (for me).
As for a GW, I was never comfortable on one due to the more upright (European-style) riding position with your legs "under" you. Fine machine to be sure, but not comfortable for me.
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Glendale, AZ United States | rdbudd - 2013-12-30 5:08 PM
PhantomX - 2013-12-30 2:22 PM
yes the ground clearance can be a bit to work around but it's not that much shorter than the Vision and if you take the right line and right speed you won't be dragging it that much. I also am a former sport bike rider and racer (600's) and also owned 2 ZX14's, Busa's, 600's, BMW's and the list goes on and I can hustle either bike through the twisties at about the same pace, edge to the wing because it simply has more power. If you were to time trial each on a track the wing would beat it, it simply has way more power stock vs stock and the minor difference it may loose in a corner in clearance (and its probably an inch or two) it more than makes up for in torque and pulling power. The Wing simply has power everywhere, I know I ride them both, currently and my F6B is even better, more clearance, lower motor, less top heavy, feels like a toy and you can sling it around quite handily.
At the end of the day it's the skill of the rider that determines the victor but 2 equally skilled riders and the Vic doesn't have the power stock to keep up. Sure you can spend $1200 to make it "as quick" (again rider dependent) as a stock Wing and that's cool that a Twin can do that. And it's not that much smaller of a Twin it is after all 1771cc's to the GoldWings 1832cc's.
Again we can brand bash all we want but the spec sheet doesn't lie the more powerful bike with about the same handling with equal riders and it's pretty easy to see the outcome. I love them both dearly, I really do and for me they feel very very similar...
Who is "bashing"? I've already said I like the Hondas. I'm a former Goldwing owner myself, and still have two other Hondas. I'm just reporting real world experiences, which do not necessarily align with magazine statistics and reporting. There is more to the story than statistical vertical ground clearance differences and peak reported horsepower and torque numbers. There are real world factors such as lean angle, gearing differences, and engine speeds vs road speeds, and actual rear wheel power vs advertised power (driveline losses and gearing--the GW is most efficient in 4th gear and the Vision is most efficient in 5th gear).
When we made the last trip to the "Dragon", my Vision was 100% stock-- no Lloydz upgrades yet at that time. The stock Vision has plenty of power to keep up at the low speeds of the "Dragon", and I was often backing off to keep from running over the Goldwing in front of me. He was laying it over as far as possible, grinding down in nearly every turn, while the Vision had clearance to spare. He is a skilled rider, as good as myself. The difference is the cornering clearance. It is more than the "spec sheets" might make it seem. That wide flat six motor and its stock engine guard find the ground much sooner than the floorboards of the narrow engined Vision does. That's a fact, not theory. I will say that the Goldwing is easier to "hang off of" than the Vision, due to the mid-controls, if you are both riding to that extreme. So is my old Sport Cruiser for that matter, for the same reason--mid controls. In the case I cited on the "Dragon", all four bikes were riding double. The Goldwings were grinding down, the Vision wasn't, and the couple on the ZX14 didn't have the cornering experience needed to keep up with the "luxury barges" in the corners. BTW, after that trip, the ZX14 owner traded it in on a Goldwing. The ZX14 seemed to be lacking in comfort and luggage capacity for a 2500 mile trip ( he hauled the ZX14 to Deals Gap, and rejoined us there for riding in the area), and he was sufficiently impressed by the handling of the "luxury barges".
Now, as far as ultimate straight line power comparisons between the GL1800 Goldwing and the Vision, I have in my hand a receipt for the mods done to my Vision that comes to a total, including parts, labor, and tax, of $1065.78, and it was done by one of the top Victory tuners in the USA, a man well known on these forums. Prices have increased since then. The resulting real world power is more than that of a GL1800 Goldwing, and I have the timeslips to prove it. Again the fellow on the Goldwing is a top notch rider and has many dragstrip trophies to prove it, some gained with the Goldwing in question. He has won 1st place a couple of times at the all-bike drags with that Goldwing, against some very fast bikes. He's good. If anything, he is a better rider than myself. His 60 foot times show it too (1.70s to my 1.80s). My Vision is still faster than his Goldwing, by about 3/10ths and 4 MPH on any given day. He has likely spent more money on plasti-chrome decorations for his Goldwing than I spent on performance upgrades for the Vision. He still has a 9.90 class Suzuki, but these days gets more enjoyment out of going to the dragstrip and beating everybody with his Goldwing. He doesn't have to haul it to the track or carry tools and race gas, and it's fun watching those "fast bikes" try to figure out why they are getting beaten to the end of the track (rider skill).
Before the upgrades, in 5th gear passing maneuvers, the 100% stock Vision was a dead even match for the Goldwing from 50 to 100 MPH. The GW would begin to pull away after 100 MPH. Since the upgrades, the Vision walks away from the Goldwing in the same scenerio, and really starts to pull a big lead after about 115 MPH. The Goldwing is done by 120, unless there is a tailwind, then it gains a little more, but it will never see 130 as verified by a GPS. The GW speedometer claims as much as 134 MPH, but the GPS says otherwise. Subtract 10. The Vision has at least 10 MPH more top end speed than the Goldwing in any situation now, in the real world (not exactly sure just how much--he has the GPS and can't keep up). The stock Vision speed limiter restricted it to 120 MPH, no matter which way the wind was blowing, GPS verified. Mine isn't restricted anymore. My particular Vison's speedometer is amazingly accurate according to the GPS, and I 've seen 135+ MPH on it. The GW was quite a ways behind by then.
The statement that the Goldwing "simply has power everywhere" implies that the Vision doesn't. However, if you look at the dyno charts for the Goldwing and a Lloydz cammed Vision, you will find that the Victory V-Twin actually has a powerband that is wider than that of the Goldwing (the GW peaks at 5500 to 5580 RPM depending on the year model, and the Victory peaks at 5750 with the VM1 cams) and the Victory has more rear-wheel torque than the Honda, and it lasts over a wider range, and most importantly, has more average torque over the range of RPMs seen when flogging through the gears. That is why it is quicker through the quarter mile. A lot of the difference in perception is due to the smooth even firing pulses of the six cylinder Honda vs the uneven firing pulses of the V-Twin, especially down low. Add to that the fact that the Honda is geared lower in 1st gear than the Victory, which makes it "feel more powerful" at low speeds. That fact also helps the GW "lug down" to a lower speed than the Vision in 1st gear. The GW is moving 4.3% slower MPH at any given RPM than the Victory when both are in 1st gear. Perception isn't reality. Reality is taking two bikes out on the road or dragstrip and doing dragstrip runs or roll-on tests in real time. The cammed Vision wins both the drag race and the roll-on contest. Not by a lot, but by a clear margin. BTW, the scales put his Goldwing and rider at 1120 pounds and my Vision and myself at 1100 pounds. Not enough difference to really matter.
Theories, stats, and magazine articles are one thing. The real world is another.
Rider skill is certainly a factor, as the folks on the ZX14 found out. Lots of power doesn't mean much if you don't know how to take a fast line through a tight corner. He's learning. He has been following us "old guys".
I've already agreed that the Hondas are great bikes too. Different strokes for different folks. I'll get the chance to take an F6B out for a test ride one of these days. It will be interesting to see how it performs next to a Goldwing and a Vision in the real world. Never know, I might want one.
Ronnie
I agree in that "real world" is better as opposed to magazine articles. With that being said, I have not read any formal unbiased professional reviews on the overall impression of the Vison vs Goldwing. If anybody has a link that would be much appreciated. I love my Vision a great deal, but I have no brand loyalty to speak of. For a Vtwin, I love the power band of the 106 and don't have an issue with not having enough passing power at speed on the highway, which has been the case with Vtwins since day one. I would venture to say the 106 is the best Vtwin production motor to date. I would concede the powerplant on the Goldwing is a better all around "long distance touring" motor, which has solidified it's position in the long distance touring community as being virtually "bullet proof."
Speaking of real world, I have an 09 stock Vision and my buddy has a 2012 stock Goldwing and the Goldwing is the quicker bike of the two based on my own experience with riding his Goldwing. It is interesting to compare rider impressions and real world performance numbers, but at the end of the day and no matter how you slice it, we are dealing with two "heavy weight" long distance touring pack camels that will not be seeing a Laguna Seca track day anytime soon unless it's for ***** and giggles. Irregardless of engine modifications both bikes have absolutely no shot in hell from a performance and handling standpoint with any sports touring bike out there or the BMW GTL keeping rider skills set in mind. Peace. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | im sorry but i gotta say this.. its silly as hell when a touring motorcycle comparison begins with 1/4 mile numbers and who is faster etc.. its like saying my Dodge mini van is faster than your toyota mini van.. Touring motorcycles are the "mini vans" of the motorcycle world. Or station wagon depending on how you want to label it.. When i bought my vision(s) 1/4 mile numbers weren't even a thoughts. i went from a 125ci cruiser to a vision.. guess which one was faster.. NOT the vision.. but i didnt buy a "mini van" for top speed. i bought it for comfort (captains chair) and lockable storage, plus radio etc etc etc. if i wanted to buy a Fast bike or a red light to red light machine. i wouldn't of purchased motorcycle that belongs in the station wagon / mini van category ... if you want pure speed .. get a bike designed for it.. http://images.truckinweb.com/brandpages/dodge/0608tr_01_z+2003_... |
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Manchester, CT | Just to through a little fun into the discussion. In the car world there are also those that want rolling luxury and the need for speed 
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Pittsburgh, PA | Street Eagle - 2013-12-31 7:27 AM
Just to through a little fun into the discussion. In the car world there are also those that want rolling luxury and the need for speed
http://www.bentleymotors.com/models/new_flying_spur/[/QUO
neither of which applies to the vision... ?? the vision while a great bike, is Not luxurious Nor fast...
Its well designed, & Functional. its also not the most state of the art either.. but its not $30-$40K ... it is what it is and nothing more...
Examples. Brembo brakes, LED headlamps and fog lamps, etc etc
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/cvo-limited.html#!...
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New Bohemia, VA | I see the Vision on target for ride and comfort. To add all the state of the art extrenous feature would make it a luxury motorcycle that is unmatched on the planet. I'm glad the built the Bentley of bikes for us common folk...
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Jasper, MO | Street Eagle - 2013-12-31 7:27 AM
Just to through a little fun into the discussion. In the car world there are also those that want rolling luxury and the need for speed
http://www.bentleymotors.com/models/new_flying_spur/
There you go. If it weren't so, then why did the subject of which bike is faster even come up? Why do people buy an F6B "because it has power everywhere"? Why do people do performance upgrades to their bikes, regardless of brand?
Answer: Some of us like to go fast once in a while, even if "fast" is a relative term in the motorcycling world. Some of us want class leading performance relative to the heavyweight luxury touring bike category. The Goldwing provides it, the Vision is a close second in stock (heavily EPA restricted) form, and becomes the class performance leader with a bit of Lloydz magic dust sprinkled on it (EPA restrictions removed).
Some of us old guys used to be young guys who were very competitive riders when we rode sport bikes. Just because we have "graduated" to luxury touring bikes does not mean that the urge to twist the throttle to see who is faster went away. We still like to have fun. Some of that fun includes seeing who is faster--even on our luxury barges.
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Pittsburgh, PA | varyder - 2013-12-31 11:25 AM
Yeah, I was racing a Nissan Ultima just this morning, then I finally let him take me since he was so bent to do... oh, wait, I'm bone stock and that was a car, never mind.
i raced a lawn mower once..? I was walking .. um ok? |
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Pittsburgh, PA | varyder - 2013-12-31 11:25 AM
Yeah, I was racing a Nissan Ultima just this morning, then I finally let him take me since he was so bent to do... oh, wait, I'm bone stock and that was a car, never mind.
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Jasper, MO | Arkainzeye - 2013-12-31 11:55 AM
varyder - 2013-12-31 11:25 AM
Yeah, I was racing a Nissan Ultima just this morning, then I finally let him take me since he was so bent to do... oh, wait, I'm bone stock and that was a car, never mind.
i raced a lawn mower once..? I was walking .. um ok?
You just picked the wrong lawn mower to challenge. My racing mower had a Suzuki GS1100 engine and pulled a weight sled down a dirt track considerably faster than walking speeds. It had wheelie bars to keep it from flipping over backwards, and weight brackets to adjust the 1000 pound total weight for track conditions.
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New Bohemia, VA | Dude, I was in Wisconsin and loved going to see the pulls and the county fairs. They had some mean lawn tractors supped up that could do some damage on the dirt strip. I thought of entering the milking contest and the log roll but would have come in dead last on both. |
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Glendale, AZ United States | Arkainzeye - 2013-12-31 1:22 AM
im sorry but i gotta say this.. its silly as hell when a touring motorcycle comparison begins with 1/4 mile numbers and who is faster etc.. its like saying my Dodge mini van is faster than your toyota mini van.. Touring motorcycles are the "mini vans" of the motorcycle world. Or station wagon depending on how you want to label it.. When i bought my vision(s) 1/4 mile numbers weren't even a thoughts. i went from a 125ci cruiser to a vision.. guess which one was faster.. NOT the vision.. but i didnt buy a "mini van" for top speed. i bought it for comfort (captains chair) and lockable storage, plus radio etc etc etc. if i wanted to buy a Fast bike or a red light to red light machine. i wouldn't of purchased motorcycle that belongs in the station wagon / mini van category ... if you want pure speed .. get a bike designed for it.. http://images.truckinweb.com/brandpages/dodge/0608tr_01_z+2003_cust...
My thoughts exactly. It would be like if I took my brother's 1974 shovel head and turned the bike into a long distance tourer instead of a bar hopper. Can it be done? Most likely with some TLC and deep pockets, but why. Certainly to each his own and spend it if you got it, but from my standpoint I have a long distance pack camel and will not pump my camel full of steroids and full throttle energy drinks prior to my desert trip for fear of being stranded in the middle of nowhere if I can help it. |
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New Bohemia, VA | There's a dude on the Iron Butt circuit who mod his Sportster to run the long distance. Some of the wingers have so many gadgets on their bike it's hard to tell if its a motorcycle or a utility vehicle on two wheels. Whatever spins your wheels. I've got fringe on the floorboard now and the bike runs smoother and faster... ahhhhhhh |
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Glendale, AZ United States | varyder - 2013-12-31 10:25 AM
Yeah, I was racing a Nissan Ultima just this morning, then I finally let him take me since he was so bent to do... oh, wait, I'm bone stock and that was a car, never mind.
I'm sure you blew him out of the hole, but those freaking Altimas have some pep in em. I at least hope we got the Camry's or Accords covered. Don't you hate that when you are trying to pass someone on a two lane highway and the dingle berry with his lifted truck and three inches of furry you know where stomps on the gas as you are passing? LOL! |
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Glendale, AZ United States | rdbudd - 2013-12-31 11:28 AM
Arkainzeye - 2013-12-31 11:55 AM
varyder - 2013-12-31 11:25 AM
Yeah, I was racing a Nissan Ultima just this morning, then I finally let him take me since he was so bent to do... oh, wait, I'm bone stock and that was a car, never mind.
i raced a lawn mower once..? I was walking .. um ok?
You just picked the wrong lawn mower to challenge. My racing mower had a Suzuki GS1100 engine and pulled a weight sled down a dirt track considerably faster than walking speeds. It had wheelie bars to keep it from flipping over backwards, and weight brackets to adjust the 1000 pound total weight for track conditions.
Ronnie
I got a Craftsman riding tractor mower with the upgraded Kohler engine that supposedly has like 25 horsepower. Does that count? Now if I only could keep the tires inflated in between mowing I would be in good shape. LOL! |
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New Bohemia, VA | Vladezip - 2013-12-31 2:45 PM varyder - 2013-12-31 10:25 AM Yeah, I was racing a Nissan Ultima just this morning, then I finally let him take me since he was so bent to do... oh, wait, I'm bone stock and that was a car, never mind. I'm sure you blew him out of the hole, but those freaking Altimas have some pep in em. I at least hope we got the Camry's or Accords covered. Don't you hate that when you are trying to pass someone on a two lane highway and the dingle berry with his lifted truck and three inches of furry you know where stomps on the gas as you are passing? LOL! Apparently I put a knot in his drawers, twice. The first time I had just got on I-95 and rolled into the hammer lane and he was coming up behind me. So I scooted on down the road and I didn't see him for a few miles and then there he was. There was a bottle neck but I got threw it with ease and headed on down and wasn't thinking nothing of it. Then I see him in the opening behind me probably doing about 100, don't try to figure how I could guess that. I ease over in the right lane since I was getting off soon. After he gets in front of me, he slows to the flow. I guess he showed me...lol |
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Jasper, MO | Vladezip - 2013-12-31 1:53 PM
rdbudd - 2013-12-31 11:28 AM
Arkainzeye - 2013-12-31 11:55 AM
varyder - 2013-12-31 11:25 AM
Yeah, I was racing a Nissan Ultima just this morning, then I finally let him take me since he was so bent to do... oh, wait, I'm bone stock and that was a car, never mind.
i raced a lawn mower once..? I was walking .. um ok?
You just picked the wrong lawn mower to challenge. My racing mower had a Suzuki GS1100 engine and pulled a weight sled down a dirt track considerably faster than walking speeds. It had wheelie bars to keep it from flipping over backwards, and weight brackets to adjust the 1000 pound total weight for track conditions.
Ronnie
I got a Craftsman riding tractor mower with the upgraded Kohler engine that supposedly has like 25 horsepower. Does that count? Now if I only could keep the tires inflated in between mowing I would be in good shape. LOL!
It does. There are classes for stock block mowers to compete in. The operative words being "stock block"...........
I know ya'll are just funning me, but some of us old guys just can't help racing whatever we have, be it boats, mowers, cars , or even our touring motorcycles. I could never afford the big racing tractors, and my stock farm tractors weren't competitive, even in the "farm stock" class (none of the competitive ones really are stock) so I built one for the 1000 pound mower class, out of an old Murray riding mower. Lots of fun, and a wild ride at times.
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Glendale, AZ United States | varyder - 2013-12-31 12:33 PM
There's a dude on the Iron Butt circuit who mod his Sportster to run the long distance. Some of the wingers have so many gadgets on their bike it's hard to tell if its a motorcycle or a utility vehicle on two wheels. Whatever spins your wheels. I've got fringe on the floorboard now and the bike runs smoother and faster... ahhhhhhh
I think they did an interview with the sporty guy that wanted to do something different, but I think that was last year. From a Victory standpoint they had a gal at this year's rally on a 08 Vision and that was all. She had a very strong showing after the first leg of the rally, but those guys are freaking nuts!!!! I love logging on the miles like the next guy, but would have to quit my job and practice for a year before being involved with the full bore IBA rally. I think it's one of those at least once in a lifetime must DOs, but when the runner up this year freaking ate **** for two years in a row previously by most likely falling asleep you have to draw the line somewhere or hope they don't drug test at work during that time. LOL. |
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Thinking of a Cross Country Tour Next...
