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New Bohemia, Va | I feel so left out on this one because mine only growled until I adjusted by the lastest update and that was the first couple months of ownership. Never have had to really adjust it since, I have just for the practice, but by proper adjustment it feels loose anyways. I just give it a kick now and again. Never adjust it at tire changes either, and don't oil it. I'm always the loner.
The only real problem I'm having right now is the left handgrip tassles want to slip off. It's tight, but still slide back some, anybody have any ideas how I can fix this? Maybe there's a tassle engineer in the house...
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Brighton, TN | Not a tassle engineer, but one time at band camp.........
I do have to replace my handgrips though. |
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| OK here you go.....I have never taken a tire off a bike with a belt ...just chain driven bikes....and all required adjusted the chain to be re-adjusted when reinstalling the rim. I stand corrected. Once again.....there are those like you that know how to do the belt adjustment and have good results. There are those like me and the two dealers I have taken it to that do not have a clue or can not understand how to adjust belts even after reading a how to of a paragraph or two....but we do understand how to adjust belts required to hold up our pants. The point of this thread I started .....ended up being two fold. 1. Alternative ways to stop the chirping other than adjusting the belt. Three proven so far....one pending testing. 2. Would anyone that knows how to adjust the belt do a video for all of us that can not. I guess my point is when someone says they can not understand how to do the belt adjustment up front....that is what it means.....so stating that doing the belt adjustment over and over is the solution is a statement of the obvious for those of us that can not figure out how to do the belt adjustment in the first place.....right? Its that simple. So do you want to help out by doing the video or not. I would like you or someone to do this, would appreciate you or anyone else doing this and would be forever thankful for this to be a result of this thread. Do you want me to send you the holding device for your camera for the video? As far as your guesses related to me personally.....that is one specific thing you are really not an expert on and as none of your statements about me apply....though I do admit to being old ....also admit to being stupid (again in this same post) in not being able to figure out how to actually adjust the belt. Mike .....pollolittle - 2011-06-08 9:43 AM Very Minor Nit update / correction: I have never adjusted the belt since the day I fixed it. Been through multiple rear tire changes and all I do is put a new tire on and bolt it all back together. NO ADJUSTMENT. I do have over 51,000 on the odo now and I fixed it around the 5,000 mile mark I believe, so move benchmark to 46,000. Did I state somewhere that I had to adjust the belt at every tire change, if so where, and I will change accordingly? Ok, I give, I'm apparently dealing with an engineer of some level or prior Military with excellent attention to detail or an older fellow with just an affection for explicit statements of correctness and no variance. I too have a goal, help where possible, chide when available and ride when I can, without a chirp. I dealt with that dang squeaking, chirping belt, for over 4500 miles before I fixed it. Irritating to all get out, I could have taken the bike back in and told them to give me a new bike, if it was an option. I had had all I could take, 20k+ for a bike, and I got this embarrassing, chirping, gonna drive me crazy sound coming out of my new bike and nobody knows how to fix it. ARAARRGGGGHHHH. Anyway, continue on.
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| Again.......the point of this thread I started .....ended up being two fold. 1. Alternative ways to stop the chirping other than adjusting the belt. Three proven so far....one pending testing. 2. Would anyone that knows how to adjust the belt do a video for all of us that can not. What I am hearing is a couple guys talking down to those of us that do not know how to adjust the belt and can not comprehend a couple of paragraphs on how to do this  .....this is not how this is supposted to work on any forum. Cap.... I do have a recommendion on how you can fix .....or better yet .....where you can put your left handgrip tassle. Mike Cap'n Nemo - 2011-06-08 9:54 AM I feel so left out on this one because mine only growled until I adjusted by the lastest update and that was the first couple months of ownership. Never have had to really adjust it since, I have just for the practice, but by proper adjustment it feels loose anyways. I just give it a kick now and again. Never adjust it at tire changes either, and don't oil it. I'm always the loner. The only real problem I'm having right now is the left handgrip tassles want to slip off. It's tight, but still slide back some, anybody have any ideas how I can fix this? Maybe there's a tassle engineer in the house... |
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New Bohemia, Va | have you tried TheVOGNET or whatever it is called? I'm sure Dandy Andy has done one, if not he'll get 'er done for you. I don't have the talent, nor do I know what I'm doing. I try to follow the funky instructions and finally give up because my belt won't exactly center on the pulley. Since it doesn't chirp or growl at the prescibed tension, I am one happy camper. Sorry you're having such troubles and frustrations. |
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Brighton, TN | Not meaning to ruffle the feathers, I apologize, in my humblest text typed finger laden way. This is a forum of text, not inflection or CaPS. I will attempt to do a brief video when I change my tire.
I believe I can find a suitable holding device but I don't think my tripod goes that low. I should be changing the tire within the next week or so, so we shall see if I can remember till then.
Didn't know I was beating the dead horse, but will promptly put down the club and walk backward slowly.
Thanks Cap'n for Helping me out! Whew that was close!
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New Bohemia, Va | pollolittle - 2011-06-08 10:03 AM
Not meaning to ruffle the feathers, I apologize, in my humblest text typed finger laden way. This is a forum of text, not inflection or CaPS. I will attempt to do a brief video when I change my tire.
I believe I can find a suitable holding device but I don't think my tripod goes that low. I should be changing the tire within the next week or so, so we shall see if I can remember till then.
Didn't know I was beating the dead horse, but will promptly put down the club and walk backward slowly.
Thanks Cap'n for Helping me out! Whew that was close!
I always try taking one for the team! or is that aggrevating the team, I forget, older age is starting to get the best of me... |
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Simi Valley, CA | I did my wife's oil change this past weekend, her Vegas was chirping badly, I dipped my finger in the oil, rubbed a little bit on the belt in a few places, 600 miles later still no chirping....
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| pollolittle - 2011-06-08 11:03 AM Not meaning to ruffle the feathers, I apologize, in my humblest text typed finger laden way. This is a forum of text, not inflection or CaPS. I will attempt to do a brief video when I change my tire. I believe I can find a suitable holding device but I don't think my tripod goes that low. I should be changing the tire within the next week or so, so we shall see if I can remember till then. Didn't know I was beating the dead horse, but will promptly put down the club and walk backward slowly. Thanks Cap'n for Helping me out! Whew that was close! First off, no one is better at creating forum issues and and ticking people off than me.......no one..... I know this.....most if not all this online forum stuff never happens at rallies when were people are actually talking to each other. Now ofcourse other things do happen at rallies....and it is odd how most of it seems so funny at the time.... after a few or more beers. Lets move on......all of us not try to be so cute in replies than can be misunderstood on forums......and I will try to not be sooooo sensitive on being sooooo stupid about techincal stuff most everyone else knows. Fair Nuff Onwarddddddddddddddddddddddddd and reallllllllllllllllllllllly looking forward to your video. Now about that beer  Mike |
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| Thanks and interesting. We never thought our Vision belt made noise in summer here in PA...... just chirped in cold/colder weather. Odd thing....with 4 drops of Mobil 1 we now realize our belt was also making noise in summer, not just as loud as cold weather. We did not realize this because we never had the belt have no noise ever until trying the 4 drops of Mobil 1. Keep posting updates so we can add them to the list on this Thanks Mike Cometman - 2011-06-08 11:45 AM I did my wife's oil change this past weekend, her Vegas was chirping badly, I dipped my finger in the oil, rubbed a little bit on the belt in a few places, 600 miles later still no chirping.... |
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Baltimore, Md | I was just at my dealer yesterday and asked the head wrench about my 08 chirping and belt alignment. He pretty much dismissed the alignment as the issue and said the belt dressing/oil route is usually only temporary anyway and not recommended. He said my belt was correct tension, smooth and showed no issue and that it was likely the sprocket, as many have suggested. He took some quick photos and said he would call Polaris and get back to me, even though my Vision is out of warranty. Today I got a call from him and he said Polaris is going to send him a replacement sprocket for my bike under warranty. I was surprised to say the least, but look forward to getting it done and losing the bird calls. My recent trip with 2 old friends (one BMW LT, one Road King) garnered some praise for the Vision, but also comments about the chirping. Of course, my BMW buddy demonstrated the LT 45mph handlebar vibration/wobble, so I felt less bad.
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| Why dont your try a couple drops of oil on the belt in the meantime until your new sprocket arrives and is installed. Report back if you would. Thanks Mike flint350 - 2011-06-08 5:34 PM I was just at my dealer yesterday and asked the head wrench about my 08 chirping and belt alignment. He pretty much dismissed the alignment as the issue and said the belt dressing/oil route is usually only temporary anyway and not recommended. He said my belt was correct tension, smooth and showed no issue and that it was likely the sprocket, as many have suggested. He took some quick photos and said he would call Polaris and get back to me, even though my Vision is out of warranty. Today I got a call from him and he said Polaris is going to send him a replacement sprocket for my bike under warranty. I was surprised to say the least, but look forward to getting it done and losing the bird calls. My recent trip with 2 old friends (one BMW LT, one Road King) garnered some praise for the Vision, but also comments about the chirping. Of course, my BMW buddy demonstrated the LT 45mph handlebar vibration/wobble, so I felt less bad.
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, AR United States | I don't know what kind of rubber the belts are made from, but having seen industrial V-belts ruined by oil, I myself would not intentionally put oil on it. We were also taught the belt dressing is for flat belts and softens rubber, shortening belt life. |
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Baltimore, Md | Honestly, I don't really want to put oil on it, especially just to test a theory, when it's already going to be solved by the dealer. I don't want to chance causing a problem I don't already have.
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| Good point....sorry I brought it up. Did your dealer say what has to be present for the sprocket to be replaced under warranty. I have an 08.....so looking forward to seeing if the new sprocket solves it. Does anyone know the serial number range of the 08 reported sprocket issues? I will keep reporting how long my 4 drops keep the chirping quiet. Mike flint350 - 2011-06-08 10:37 PM Honestly, I don't really want to put oil on it, especially just to test a theory, when it's already going to be solved by the dealer. I don't want to chance causing a problem I don't already have.
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| I read what you stated in doing some research on these belts and checking posts on other forums. All I know at this point is below are three real world proven belt chirping fix results so far that have worked for various mileages ....check back through the posts for specifics Silicone Water Guard (Thomas)
Carmex (Wayne)
Harley Davidison Poly Oil (Dollarbill) Mobil 1 Four Drops in testing…. (Mike) BillyJoe - 2011-06-08 10:31 PM I don't know what kind of rubber the belts are made from, but having seen industrial V-belts ruined by oil, I myself would not intentionally put oil on it. We were also taught the belt dressing is for flat belts and softens rubber, shortening belt life. |
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| I am glad I did a search and found this. My dealer re-alligned my belt, and the chirping came back in a couple hundred miles. I got a new tire mounted by the same mechanic, and six hundred miles later, chirping is back. Only when the temps are below 70 and after riding for about 5 miles it was gone, but I don't want to listen to it.
So, after reading this I am going to try carmex, seems to me like it would cause the least possible damage to the belt, yet not have to be re-applied very often. I'll update later. |
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Central New York | I see no reason to risk belt integrity by applying anything to it. Take the time to adjust it properly and it won't chirp. I had the dealer do my three times. A Waste of time. I followed the procedures on this blog myself, (20 minutes tops), and haven't heard a peep in over 10k miles, in temperatures from 24F to 103F. |
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| Read this real close cause it tells you how to aline and it goes againest our thinking
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 Belt Alignment.pdf (50KB - 37 downloads)
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| I'm guessing the reason its done this way is cause of the ling rod.
Me I use caning wax $2.95 at walmart. I rubber it on the hole length of the outer edge. 1200 mile and no chirp. Now keep this in mind if you use oil of any thing that stays wet it will pick up dirt and dirt will cut your belt or cause fraying.
Our belt will very as must as 20 thousand that why we chirp |
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| john frey - 2012-06-17 8:35 PM Read this real close cause it tells you how to aline and it goes againest our thinking This is not directed at you (John Frey)...... I went into this before in this thread so here is the short version.........maybe in this decade just one of those that are good mechanics on this forum, have solved the belt chirping problem via adjust the belts will spend a hour or so doing a video on belt adjustment vs a taking hours compling/posting a 45 page narrative and then turning the thread into their own 3rd grade comedy routine at the expense of the rest of us that are less mechanically skilled. (Excludes dealer mechanics that can still can not adjust the belt and stop the chirping ofcourse) Sidebar: Testing of the 4 drops of Mobil 1 solution has given only 1200 to 2000 mile relief from the chirping. |
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| UPDATE: Belt chirping Mobil 1 four drops test results 1200 to 2000 miles ......then chirping comes back |
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Central Wisconsin | johnnyvision - 2012-06-17 7:35 PM Read this real close cause it tells you how to aline and it goes againest our thinking John thanks for posting the Belt Alignment.pdf info. My rear tire was wearing slightly more on the right side.
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| My canning wax has been just over two thousand miles and in rain and still hush hush sweat belt. No oil not good. Rain this week end will fix it the right way |
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| My chirping issue on my 2012 Vision was in the front fairing. You could lean in on the access panel and it would go away. The original symptom was that it would only chirp at certain RPMs - 2-2.5k. After about 500 miles tho it broke itself in and no more chirps. |
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Chirping.....unlikely fix.....
