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candubrain
Posted 2010-08-02 12:26 PM (#66145 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 235
Kincardine, Ontario, Canada
Ran my stock 08 Vision Tour against my buddy's 110 CVO Ultra, he's has overbored it, (not sure by how much) changed cams, heads and ignition, along with pipes and breather. We never dragged raced, but both lit up after leaving a stop. He had his top box removed and was running a solo seat with a backrest, he is also about 75lbs lighter than me.
If we both didn't back off at the 100MPH mark, I'm sure I would have passed him. Other than that neither of us was pulling away.

side note 94 octane and he still pings, so he has to add a booster with each fill up. He's talking of going back to the stock heads to remedy this.

Edited by candubrain 2010-08-02 12:28 PM
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Webhair
Posted 2010-08-02 1:04 PM (#66148 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Iron Butt

Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA
So, what are the results?????
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eagle
Posted 2010-08-02 1:24 PM (#66151 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 115
Columbus, Ga
Well it doesnt look like it will happen today. My bike is parked where everybody knows I rode today. No emails or phone calls like friday. I am taking the approach of not pushing it but being available. Some of the guys have made it real clear to him that there is a spaceship out in the parking lot waiting on him. He hasnt come out to play. Funny thing is its my Harley buddies at work that I regularly ride with that are egging this on cause they know my Vic will trounce him. Ive also heard a rumor that he's got a big sucker air cleaner on order and waiting for that. I am trying to make sure I atleast get a phone video of it if and wen it goes down. I'm thinking maybe he did a google search this weekend on Victory's :-)
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varyder
Posted 2010-08-02 1:46 PM (#66152 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
...aren't you ashamed of yourself being such a bully, knowing you're going to smack down on him a hurt that may cause lasting psychological damage?
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SongFan
Posted 2010-08-02 2:26 PM (#66156 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

He had his chance.  He is obviously is not used to being stood up to and probably spent the weekend kicking himself in the butt for shooting his mouth off.  If he thinks that a frickin air cleaner is going to help his cause against your KevinX'd bike, he is more pathetic than I imagined. 

I hope he reads this:  Nothing you do to that Harley will save you from total embarrassment!  You have bought into a culture that all you have to do is spend the most money and you will have the best.  Everything you have been led to believe about American made bikes is about to come crashing down around you!  I have a poster ready just for you if you are stupid enough to follow through on this.  You have no one to blame but yourself.  You are about to learn the hard way that ignorance will not be bliss.  Bring it.

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hdog
Posted 2010-08-02 2:29 PM (#66157 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 37
OUCH!!!

Thats gonna leave a mark...

Edited by hdog 2010-08-02 2:30 PM
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-08-02 2:53 PM (#66160 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
SongFan,

If I did know you better I would come to think that you are excited about this.

Eagle,

I like your passive but mildly aggressive stance. I hope the other rider does not suffer from pre-trouncing stress disorder. (PTSD)

Take care and ride to live.
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phoenix9
Posted 2010-08-02 2:59 PM (#66162 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 152
Litchfield Park, AZ
So did he just not ride into work on his bike today? Is he acting like he never agreed to race? Talk about getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

You are a Saint for letting him off the hook like this.....You are a much nicer guy than I would be.
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Flatsix
Posted 2010-08-02 4:30 PM (#66169 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Tourer

Posts: 412
Fargo, ND
If the day ever comes Eagle, make sure and insist he make a pass down the course just prior to the real thing - just to remove the 'my bike isn't running very good today' crutch! BTW, who's holding the money on this event...I want in!


Edited by Flatsix 2010-08-02 4:31 PM
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SongFan
Posted 2010-08-02 4:33 PM (#66170 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

I can't speak for everybody here but for the most part, I think that the Harley guys we know "get us".  They know Victory makes nice bikes but they are Harley guys and that's all fine.  There is a mutual respect there about being fellow riders in general.  We all tell our tales and love our bikes but no one I know would actually call out another rider in public.  If we are out on a ride and the other guy wants to have a roll-on contest down a long open stretch, that's cool.  I don't know a single Screamin Eagle Ultra owner that would dare challenge my bike in front of anyone else.  They are vocal, but not stupid.

This guy opened up a whole new ballgame by shooting his mouth off in front of the gang at work.  His ego has finally written a check he will not be able to cash, and he knows it.  Eagle has already won this thing.  He has absolutely nothing to lose.  The guy with the $45,000 trophy bike should kick his butt from here to the moon, right?  He can't just beat eagle, he has to thrash him to justify that kind of bling.  He has to put that overgrown-scooter-Jetson-bike in it's place.  The thought of that freaky bike even being close at the finish line is laughable, right?  He paid twice as much, it has to be twice as nice.  The entire reputation of Harley rests on his shoulders at work (and beyond).  He has to win.  If he can't thump a Vision, who can!?   I predict his braggin rights will be along the lines of "Hey, I almost beat a bike that cost half what mine cost and had a smaller motor!"

Eagle only has to show up, the rest will take care of itself.  Just remember who started this.



Edited by SongFan 2010-08-02 4:52 PM
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Vinner1
Posted 2010-08-02 5:53 PM (#66176 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Hartland, , WI
Be sure to get video of the big race....!!!!

Kick his ASS!!!!
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Vinner1
Posted 2010-08-02 6:17 PM (#66182 - in reply to #65931)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Hartland, , WI
Joker - 2010-07-30 5:45 PM

If you want a challenge go find a BMW 1200LT to play with as the HD is not a problem with the cams. the BMW will want to start with a roll as they have no torque to start with but can keep up with a rolling start...at least they have a chance...


Don't think you want to play against a BMW LT...had one...116 horse stock and once it gets going the rpm will stay up in it's power band....redline over 8000 but you could ride it there all day in the Alps, what a rush. And if you want to challenge one, better be a straight line race...unreal handling and suspension....130 mph rev. limiter kicks in. The aero package is meant for the autobahn...I have never seen a bike so stable at high speeds...(in comparison my VV feels really squirrely above 100 mph)...fairing and side tuperware make you feel like your are in a slot car at high speed.

Yup...miss playing with my LT...but only until my left petela tendon started screeming from the horse $hit foot position (which took all of one whole hour)...NOPE give me my sweet VV!

Edited by Vinner1 2010-08-02 6:21 PM
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Big Vic
Posted 2010-08-02 6:24 PM (#66187 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Iron Butt

Posts: 619
Southeast Iowa
Too funny! I hope the 110" chicken choker shows up for his beating but if he doesn't that's OK too. He's a beaten man race or no race.
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Vinner1
Posted 2010-08-02 6:34 PM (#66189 - in reply to #66156)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Hartland, , WI
SongFan - 2010-08-02 1:26 PM

I hope he reads this:? Nothing you do to that Harley will save you from total embarrassment!? You have bought into a culture that all you have to do is spend the most money and you will have the best.? Everything you have been led to believe about American made bikes is about to come crashing down around you!? I have a poster ready just for you if you are stupid enough to follow through on this.? You have no one?to blame but yourself.? You are about to learn the hard way that ignorance will not be bliss.? Bring it.



Song:

Love seeing this side of you....you are scaring me...come on and tell us how you really feel!
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eagle
Posted 2010-08-02 6:48 PM (#66191 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 115
Columbus, Ga
Even though this didnt happen today I believe its going to happen sooner or later. If it doesnt happen one day at lunch it will probably happen on a weekend ride. Lots of talk of planning rides this fall that both of us will be on. Either way the guys at work arent going to give him a minutes peace about it until he bucks up.
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paulhu
Posted 2010-08-02 6:58 PM (#66193 - in reply to #66182)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 132
Durango, Colorado

Vinner1 - 2010-08-02 5:17 PM Joker - 2010-07-30 5:45 PM If you want a challenge go find a BMW 1200LT to play with as the HD is not a problem with the cams. the BMW will want to start with a roll as they have no torque to start with but can keep up with a rolling start...at least they have a chance... Don't think you want to play against a BMW LT...had one...116 horse stock and once it gets going the rpm will stay up in it's power band....redline over 8000 but you could ride it there all day in the Alps, what a rush. And if you want to challenge one, better be a straight line race...unreal handling and suspension....130 mph rev. limiter kicks in. The aero package is meant for the autobahn...I have never seen a bike so stable at high speeds...(in comparison my VV feels really squirrely above 100 mph)...fairing and side tuperware make you feel like your are in a slot car at high speed. Yup...miss playing with my LT...but only until my left petela tendon started screeming from the horse $hit foot position (which took all of one whole hour)...NOPE give me my sweet VV!

       My best friend and long time riding pal has a 1998 K12LT an I dust his ass every chance I get. You have to understand that we have a long rivalry between us. When we first started riding together he had (and still has) a 1978 K75/6 and I had a 1988 Magna 750 followed by a 2000 Shadow Sabre. His frustration about always eating dust motovated his purchase of the K12LT. Alas, he was king and his incessant boasting about smoking not only me but any other V twin on the road led me in search of a new machine.......Enter the Vision. The whole month I waited for my bike to be delivered from South Carolina I tried to educate him about the amazing abilities of the Vision but he would have none of it. His arguement being that no V twin on the planet could run with the beemer, recounting the dozens of times he humiliated those "Howdy Doody" riders and their pathetic machines. Well, our oportunity to tangle finally came when he left me at a light full bore, me totally unaware I was in a contest but not detrerred by the several legnths head start he stole, Spurred the vision and rocketed by him just as I hit third gear. I continued to pull away and he let off. When we arrived at our destination all he could say was "I wont be doing that again". I understand with the right rider the K12 is a real carver with lots of top end, but in a drag to 100mph absolutely no contest for the VV. Period.

       By the way, this contest happened before the cams were installed.

        paulhu



Edited by paulhu 2010-08-02 7:00 PM
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ScoreBo
Posted 2010-08-02 7:17 PM (#66195 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
A good friend of mine has an LT. He rides solo when I am 2-up and it is neck and neck.

SongFan, sounds like you are suggesting a jousting match.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-08-02 7:40 PM (#66197 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
In reality the Ultra Classic dosen't have a chance with the mods you say he has. For a TC to really make power the heads have to be ported and have bigger valves. The ports on TC heads are terrible and the screaming eagle heads aren't much better. Beware though, if you run up against some one with really good heads and matching cams ect.. A little ole 103 can make 130 RWHP and be streetable. You won't have any problem with this fella though..............
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Vinner1
Posted 2010-08-02 7:53 PM (#66200 - in reply to #66193)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Hartland, , WI
Well...the 2005 LT I had at the same time as my VV...for about two weeks before the BMW was sold...the way I rode it felt like it really wasn't that close. My VV 0-100 probably is just as quick feeling but over a 100 on the VV is just not comfortable. I've made my rev. limiter kick in at 120 on the VV and the road was new paved and straight. Pushing that much air on the VV did not feel comfortable...the feel of the front tire at that speed was kind of scary.

Out ran an approaching thunderstorm on the interstate with the BMW with the slowest speed 100 for about 25 minutes...couldn't believe how comfortable manuvering through traffic and dialing it out between the stretches I could see a couple miles was.

Also had two youngsters pass me on their sport bikes on some back roads I drove all the time. I figure they just thought anyone with a bike that had armrests for the passenger wouldn't challenge them...wrong...after 5 minutes of hard riding for them and looking back at me still right behind them...I left them way behind when I passed them on the inside of a turn I knew was coming up and they just didn't want to go that fast on these roads I'm guessing. I felt very comfortable pushing the LT at high speed vs. the VV.

And which bike do I have in the garage...well it's not the Schnauzer heir frauline

Edited by Vinner1 2010-08-02 7:56 PM
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SongFan
Posted 2010-08-02 8:19 PM (#66203 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
The guys who have gotten to know me over the years around here realize that I'm not a Harley hater.  I'm a chest-thumping-narrow-minded-trash-talkin-ignoramus hater.  It just so happens that most of those birds come from the same flock and the more vocal they get, the more vocal I'll get right back.  This whole thing is not about Ultra vs Vision.  We read about those shootouts every year in magazines and pick them apart.  This is about a pompous jerk being held accountable for his words in front of a crowd of people and living to regret it.  Forever.
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SongFan
Posted 2010-08-02 8:47 PM (#66209 - in reply to #66197)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

XRsteve - Beware though, if you run up against some one with really good heads and matching cams ect.. A little ole 103 can make 130 RWHP and be streetable.

I work with guy who has a very low profile looking Street Glide (almost no chrome) who does his own wrenching, down to porting and polishing the heads.  He has a really good suspension set-up and a tuneable exhaust.  It is the nastiest Harley I personally have been around and he could probably snap the belt at will.  He is very low-key and is a pleasure to talk to, especially about panheads and shovelheads.  He never talks about racing anyone but you know he has really jumped some people in his day.  Great guy.



Edited by SongFan 2010-08-02 8:48 PM
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-08-02 8:58 PM (#66210 - in reply to #66209)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
SongFan: I'm all on board with you about big mouths who don't know what they're talking (bragging) about. So this particular ElectraGlide rider deserves a drag race street beating. In front of witnesses..................
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SongFan
Posted 2010-08-02 8:58 PM (#66211 - in reply to #65871)
Subject: RE: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
One more note:  Don't you think it's devine justice that eagle's name really is Chris Eagle!?  They make movies about stuff like this!  My poster wheels are spinning like crazy.
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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-02 9:56 PM (#66215 - in reply to #66191)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Tourer

Posts: 401
eagle - 2010-08-02 6:48 PM

Even though this didnt happen today I believe its going to happen sooner or later. If it doesnt happen one day at lunch it will probably happen on a weekend ride. Lots of talk of planning rides this fall that both of us will be on. Either way the guys at work arent going to give him a minutes peace about it until he bucks up.


Races are simple. You line up at the start line and the first one accross the finish line wins. If a challenger lines up at the starting line and the other doesn't, you simply need to cross the finish line and you win. If it was me I would have brought my bike to the location, and had some record you running a 20mph run and call it a win.
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paulhu
Posted 2010-08-02 10:09 PM (#66218 - in reply to #66215)
Subject: Re: Called out by Screaming Eagle


Cruiser

Posts: 132
Durango, Colorado

sgiacci - 2010-08-02 8:56 PM eagle - 2010-08-02 6:48 PM Even though this didnt happen today I believe its going to happen sooner or later. If it doesnt happen one day at lunch it will probably happen on a weekend ride. Lots of talk of planning rides this fall that both of us will be on. Either way the guys at work arent going to give him a minutes peace about it until he bucks up. Races are simple. You line up at the start line and the first one accross the finish line wins. If a challenger lines up at the starting line and the other doesn't, you simply need to cross the finish line and you win. If it was me I would have brought my bike to the location, and had some record you running a 20mph run and call it a win.

      Yea, but what fun would that be? I like The public hanging idea best, he certainly has plenty of rope by now.....whose idea was that?......MINE! ahh haa haa haa ahh haa haa. (psycopathic laughter)

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