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Cruiser
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Altoona, Wisconsin | Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does the Lloyd's Dyno Tune do? I'm planning to ride to Spirit Lake on Thursday, depending on the weather. |
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Cruiser
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Sparta, WI | StarChief - 2008-08-12 12:06 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does the Lloyd's Dyno Tune do? I'm planning to ride to Spirit Lake on Thursday, depending on the weather.
Ever since I put a Stage 1 Level 2 upgrade on my Vision is has been gettting decleration popping and it is pissin me off. The local dealer is very inexperienced and I am hoping that Lloydz dyno tuning can straighten me out. I have no experience with this problem so between myself and my dealer's tech person we are out of our league. I quess Lloydz is the guru so off I go to Spirit Lake in hope of eliminating this emabarrasing, irritating, no excuse for, decel popping. Go to Lloydz web site and you can get a better ideal of what benefits an experienced dyno tuner can lend you.
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | Minnow,
When "Sparks" is cold it will Pop quite a bit on decel and just idling down with the clutch pulled in. If Lloyd can fix this on your Vision let me know. |
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Cruiser
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Hinton, Iowa | (All Vision riders) Let's plan on meeting on meeting at the factory parking lot at say 5pm on Friday and parade down to the green space together. That would be pretty cool. I guess this is short notice for some but spread the word to all riders that you might run into.
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Tourer
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20 miles west of Chicago. | Unfortunatly, there's no way to tune out the decel popping as it is attributable to a lean fuel mixture. (Unless there is an exhaust leak.) The only way to richen the mixture (Tune the engine.) is to either reprogram the onboard computer with a richer fuel map or to add an aftermarket fuel control device. Neither Victory nor anyone, save S&S in conjunction with their airbox, has a richer fuel map for the 106 engines, and S&S does not have one for the Vision, since they do not make an airbox for the Vision. Fortunately Lloyd has an add-on fuel controller designed for the Vision, and with the addition of one of these fuel can be added to the map, and the motor should be able to be properly tuned to eliminate the popping. Lloyd can probably dial it in very well "seat of the pants" with his skill and experience and individual owners can very likely get it very close if not perfect, but the ideal way to tune an engine is to run it on a dynomometer so the exact fuel/air ratios can be observed and tuned throughout the power band. The fuel controller does not, I believe, use the O2 sensors, which in my opinion is perfectly alright, but may bother some. I have an appointment with Lloyd Saturday to install a fuel controller, airbox intake plate and dyno tune my bike on Saturday as it pops and backfires on decel and the header pipes have blued heavily.
Edited by Mudge 2008-08-13 12:37 AM
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Cruiser
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Arkansas | I dunno about the lean mixture causing the decel pop..I know, it makes sense to me too, but I have S1L1, K&N and had the VFCIII on there too---- Had the popping mostly on the shift; minimal decel pop. Added a bunch of fuel via VFC- no change. Since I also had frequent engine stall off idle, I removed VFC. Also note that I had reverted back from S1 download to stock download in attempt to fix stalling-nada!
I'm still running the stock download and have no more staling and no popping whatever aside from an occ'l pop on shift while engine is cold.
Now explain to me why this too lean, EPA stock map cures my popping? I just accept that it does! |
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Iron Butt
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| Hmm.........how about getting this thread back on track............... 
I'm leaving Friday morning and heading out to the AVR. I'll couldn't find a decent price for a room in Spirit Lake so I'm staying about 20 minutes away in Jackson, Minnesota.
Any other Northern Illinois or Southern Wisconsin Vision Riders planning on attending? |
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Tourer
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20 miles west of Chicago. | JAMA; To answer your question, my dealer rides a Vision and also found that the stock mapping seemed to be Ok, but that when he changed to the S1L1 download it started exhibiting signs of a lean mixture. In theory at least, the VFC richened mixture should have taken care of that. Sorry for the off-topic post.
I'll try my best to be at the Vic Factory parking lot at 5:00 PM Friday. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | FYI -
Just arrived in Osceola, MN for the factory tour tomorrow. Found a very nice hotel ($68/night w/AAA disc.) "River Valley Inn & Suites" on Rt 35N in Osceola.. Free internet and breakfast! They still have rooms available. About 1 mile from the Vic plant.
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Iron Butt
Posts: 721
| Mudge - 2008-08-13 2:17 PM JAMA; To answer your question, my dealer rides a Vision and also found that the stock mapping seemed to be Ok, but that when he changed to the S1L1 download it started exhibiting signs of a lean mixture. In theory at least, the VFC richened mixture should have taken care of that. Sorry for the off-topic post. I'll try my best to be at the Vic Factory parking lot at 5:00 PM Friday. What route will you be taking? As of today my plan is to leave Fox Lake around 5:30 a.m. and slab it to Spirit Lake.
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Puddle Jumper
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S/W Minnesota | I live about 40 miles straight north of Spirit Lake. Think I'll head down Sat. morning as friday doesn't work to well. If I can be of help to anyone let me know.
Midnight Cherry Premium |
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Cruiser
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Altoona, Wisconsin | JAM - 2008-08-13 3:18 PM
FYI -
Just arrived in Osceola, MN for the factory tour tomorrow. Found a very nice hotel ($68/night w/AAA disc.) "River Valley Inn & Suites" on Rt 35N in Osceola.. Free internet and breakfast! They still have rooms available. About 1 mile from the Vic plant.
Sorry, JAM, but Osceola is in Wisconsin. You've been putting on so many miles, you lost track. |
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Vision-Riders at the AVR - How Many?
