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Georgia, west of Atlanta | So far differences I can tell are : 1) the 13' is easier to find neutral, 2) The 13' radio reception is way better. 3) the 2008 will stomp the 13' cause it has 115HP. And the heated seat on the 13" sure is nice, I rode it home last night and it was 38F. |
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Ruskin, Fl | My 2013 seems underpowered compared to my '08.
I needs cams! |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Well we all know where the cams are...........Thank you Lloyd. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | One more thing: I'm gonna have to get a toe/heel shifter, Just been using one too long and like it too much to go without...........
One question: Why is the radio reception so much better on my 13' than my 08' ??? Is it a different radio or a better antenna ??? |
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Ruskin, Fl | Pretty sure it's improved radio. Antenna looks the same. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder ....
I love my '08 - and all that has been done since - has just tried to lure new buyers. I wouldn't give you a nickel for a newer one than MY baby.
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Jasper, MO | cw1115 - 2013-02-16 11:59 PM
Pretty sure it's improved radio. Antenna looks the same.
I would agree. My 2008 radio didn't have very good reception, and when I added the CB in early 2009, they didn't like each other. When all was said and done, I ended up with a new 2010 radio and CB (replaced under warranty). The new radio has much better reception. Same antenna.
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Peru, IN | You guys are saying the '08s had more horsepower than the '13s? |
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Ruskin, Fl | Well mine did. I bought it with Ness Honkers, Lloyd air intake and fuel fuel controller.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | No mine does because I have VM-1 cams, top filter, PC-V and CFR pipes. I believe stock visions of all years have about 85 RWHP. My 08' has 115 RWHP because of the mods and a Lloyd dyno tune............. |
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Jasper, MO | Monkeyman - 2013-02-17 11:59 AM
You guys are saying the '08s had more horsepower than the '13s?
Not until Lloydz sprinkled some magic dust on them. Then they magically gain about a 30% power increase.
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Peru, IN | Ah. That makes more sense now. Thanks. I though ya'll were comparing stock to stock. |
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Dallas, Texas | For me, I'll keep my '08, until it gets to be too expensive to fix. I looked at the '13s, and it seemed like alot of the items that came standard with the Tour Premium, you have to buy separately. I'll stick with my PIF '08. |
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Jasper, MO | iluvink - 2013-02-17 9:39 PM
For me, I'll keep my '08, until it gets to be too expensive to fix. I looked at the '13s, and it seemed like alot of the items that came standard with the Tour Premium, you have to buy separately. I'll stick with my PIF '08.
Same here. I've got it the way I want it, and the later bikes just look and feel "cheapened" compared to my '08 Tour Premium. As far as I'm concerned after trying the newer bikes out, they have no advantage other than the availability of reverse, and have some features I find that are inferior to my '08.
Not putting your new bike down Steve--Congratulations. I'm just happy with what I've already got.
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Edited by rdbudd 2013-02-17 9:55 PM
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | All cool, I love my 08' and I hope to come to love the 13' too. Heck I might put a "BIG" engine in the 08' now or maybe one of those Lloydz superchargers. Hmm ????? Any way they are both examples of the best American bike made........... |
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Peru, IN | I think the BIG reason the '13 (or '11/'12) is better than the '08 (or '09) is ABS. Never had a bike with ABS before this one and after a couple close calls (so far), I don't think I'd own a bike without it. |
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| If you put a CT on the 08 or 09 you have almost the same braking as ABS |
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Peru, IN | Um, probably not. Nice try, though. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | One thing I've been wondering about, what changed with the engine that it went from 2500 mile oil change intervals to 5000 miles ?? |
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| Nothing in the motor changed. But the trans was completely redone with helicut gears and tighter tolerances. The older trans became noisy, difficult to shift and hard to find neutral as the oil got miles on it. The newer trans eliminated those problems as well as having a positive neutral finder kinda like what Kawasaki had back in 1973. In 2013 they updated it again but didn't publicize it. More like a running change. The new bikes have all new gears again as well as a new selector wheel or whatever they call it. My 2013 shifts way better than my 2011 did.
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, WI | XRsteve - 2013-02-22 9:31 PM One thing I've been wondering about, what changed with the engine that it went from 2500 mile oil change intervals to 5000 miles ?? From the Victory website - "We asked Victory engineer James Holroyd to comment on some of the changes in 2011. Regarding reliability, James says “This important improvement was made possible by the new transmission and its neutral-finder. Previous oil change intervals were dictated by oil breakdown making neutral harder to find at higher mileages. The neutral finder eliminates this problem, and allows you to get the full use out of your oil.” |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Thanks fells............ |
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Lindale, TX | Can't give up the chrome handlebars on my 08 tour premium. Something about the painted ones throws me off. |
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Peru, IN | Chrome is so 10 years ago. The blacked out stuff on my '12 was one of the selling points. |
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Perry Hall, MD | Rollin' - 2013-02-23 12:13 AM
>"We asked Victory engineer James Holroyd to comment on some of the changes in 2011. Regarding reliability, James says ?This important improvement was made possible by the new transmission and its neutral-finder. Previous oil change intervals were dictated by oil breakdown making neutral harder to find at higher mileages. The neutral finder eliminates this problem, and allows you to get the full use out of your oil.?
Seems to validate earlier post that the dealer had told a member that the engine will tell you when the oil needs to be changed.
So, if I can still find neutral the engine is fine with going to 5,000 between changes, but is there a risk to adding wear to the tranny? |
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