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cw1115
Posted 2013-04-03 5:38 AM (#134130 - in reply to #132438)
Subject: Re: 6 1/2 speakers


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
Great job! I'm sure a speaker that is 20% larger must make a huge difference.
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Ditch
Posted 2013-04-03 12:09 PM (#134144 - in reply to #132438)
Subject: Re: 6 1/2 speakers


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Posts: 125
Thanks CW!
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Ditch
Posted 2013-04-03 12:09 PM (#134145 - in reply to #132438)
Subject: Re: 6 1/2 speakers


Cruiser

Posts: 125
Well, here are most of the challenges I dealt with during the install:
First, if you are not reasonably proficient using cutting tools and comfortable cutting plastic off of your bike then don't do this project.
Second, I do not claim to be an expert in any form or fashion. Im just an audio guy and good sound is very important to me.
Third, you can easily damage your bike doing this install.
Fourth, If I were to do it over again I would probably just do a surface mount on top of the grill and call it good.
Last, I am not responsible for any aspect of this that goes wrong.

Now that that is out of the way. It sounds really good with the Polk DB6501 fronts, Polk DB5251's in the rear and the Alpine monster cranking 100 watts per channel. Hmmm, I wonder if i can get 5x7's in the rear???
Yes, it was definitely worth it to me but it took all day. I had the turn signals out via Dains instructions ( which were spot on!) because I also installed clear turn signals. That was good anyway for working space during this install. I removed the stock speaker enclosures and replaced them with 5.25" boom mats off of Amazon. First I placed the speakers on the vics cutouts wrong side out to trace the outline with a silver marker. Always know what is behind any area you are cutting and clear away wires, fuel lines, etc.. I tried to cut a slot near the flange hoping to wedge it in the slot instead of butchering the enclosure. That did not work, so i got out the Rotozip and started carefully cutting and fitting each step of the way. I wound up cutting all but about a 1/2 - 3/4 inch out on the outer sides of the opening. You will need to cut all tabs and protrusions off the flange area.

There are some very important things to keep in mind during all of the cutting.

1. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT IS BEHIND WHERE YOU ARE CUTTING!!!!
2. Make sure you leave enough structure to bolt the speaker into.
3. Take your time, be patient, cut a little then try the fit. Repeat, repeat, repeat.
4. Make your outside cuts are on an inward angle to help seat the speakers near the gauges.
5. Make sure you have enough clearance for woofer excursion. You dont want the rubber surround on the speaker to slap the rear of your plastic speaker covers. This will sound bad and eventually trash your rubber surround.

I used a rotozip multibit for the rough cuts and a Dremel with a quick locking collet and cutting wheel made for plastic for the finer cuts. I forgot about my Ridgid multi-tool and I am sure it would have worked well. Then I had an air sander to smooth the edges out.
It is helpful to re-install one side of the plastic vic speaker cover to see what kind of clearance you need to work toward. You will have to keep checking the speaker fit during the cuts to see what needs to be trimmed.
I will have to check the exact size of these woofers but this is absolutely the biggest speaker that you can get in here. I am pretty sure it was roughly 6 1/4 to 6 3/8. I cut all the way to the tank fairing on the bottom and all the way to the bottom of the gauge visor on the top (no idea what its called). There was not any more room vertically. I had to expand toward the outside on both sides a bit. I also found it helped to make sure I cleared the supporting web structure more behind the outer opening.

I had to rotate the speakers around a little prior to installing the boom mat to get an idea of where to screw it in. Install the boom mat after you drill a drain hole then pull your speaker wire through. Make sure you solder the connections on the speaker terminals. The inside two screws were pretty easy but the outsides were not. On the outside I used some 1.5" screws with washers and nuts. There is some webbing structure that I went between with the screws to put a large washer for the webbing gap then stepped it down to the right size. It worked fine and should hold the speakers well. If you can do fiberglass that would be ideal for a winter project. Just cut most of it out and glass it in with a ledge to screw into. You will need to find a happy medium when tightening the screws and/or bolts to find the best flush location. What I found was that I had to have the outside edge of the speaker frame flush with the flat area on the Vic that is surrounding the speaker.

I am sure I am missing some things but that is the majority of what it takes to chop off a bunch of plastic and drop in some bigger speakers.

I hope this helps the few people that may attempt it, let me know if I can help you along in any way.

Other than all of that just put it back together and start rocking!
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alohaboy
Posted 2013-04-07 2:46 PM (#134373 - in reply to #132438)
Subject: Re: 6 1/2 speakers


Cruiser

Posts: 216
Danville, CA
Nice work... Are those tweeters too? What kind?
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Ditch
Posted 2013-04-07 9:02 PM (#134401 - in reply to #132438)
Subject: Re: 6 1/2 speakers


Cruiser

Posts: 125
Thank you, Polk DB6501 component speakers.
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kbrown211
Posted 2013-04-08 8:05 AM (#134420 - in reply to #132438)
Subject: Re: 6 1/2 speakers


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 27
Owings Mills, MD
Wow. Good job.
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tommyP030
Posted 2017-01-23 7:00 AM (#191391 - in reply to #134145)
Subject: Re: 6 1/2 speakers


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I've done some research on the car speakers, because mine blew out and I needed new ones.
Found out that the Rockford Fosgate Punch P1683 fit pretty much anywhere, so they might suit your needs. They have the FlexFit Basket design which lets you do lots of adjustments to the mounting position.
If you want to read more about it, here's what I've found: https://tomlikesbest.com/best-car-speakers/

Hope this helps!
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cw1115
Posted 2017-07-23 8:36 PM (#192123 - in reply to #132438)
Subject: RE: 6 1/2 speakers


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
Hi everyone. I have not posted in a while. Life is good, and I have lots to post. For now, a quick post from my phone. I just finished squeezing 6.5" up front. I had Polk MM 521s all around an Alpine KTP-445. It was great at first, had many speakers go bad. I decided I was going to get 6.5 in for better bass. I chose Polk DB-652 due to low cost to test with. Plus they marine certified and rated at 100W continues. My plan was to bridge the amp to 90W x 2. I found 5.25 to 6.5 adapters for the Vic XC. I thought it was going to be fairly easy. Complete nightmare. They are in. Dremmeled the sh*t out of a lot of stuff. Ended up pulling the whole bike apart, I have photos, I need to resize tomorrow. Required amp and fired it up awesome to about 60% volume, then amp started cutting out. On frustration, wired back to 45Wx4. Loud as hell. Bass is crap. Finished getting bike assembled, on more part, the access panel. Won't snap in. Great! Top off dash hitting on speakers and pushing up 2 mm. Ugh. Over it! Trimmed avat contact points so now, I think I need to switch amps. I want to put in the 300W RF, PBR300X4. Anybody know if this fits on top of tank where I have the Alpine? Pics and more details tomorrow. Sorry for typos, on iPhone.

Edited by cw1115 2017-07-23 8:45 PM
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