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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I have a small oil leak at the top and front edge of the cam drive cover. Looks like a simple removal of 6 allen head bolts to replace the gasket. Any one have experience with this ?? There is a two prong electrical connection at the rear of the cam drive cover. Any one know what that is connected to inside ?? I don't want to mess up timing.......... The picture is not my bike for reference only.
Thanks in advance........steve
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Visionary
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Buy a new gasket from Lloydz. His is alot beefier than oem and can withstand multiple disassemblies. I think the wires are connected to a timing sensor.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Just so happens I already have a Lloydz gasket. I just wanted to know anything special about dis-assembly and then re-assembly.......Especially about the timing sensor you mentioned.
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Mechanicsville, VA United States | You might as well get the Lloyd'z ATW and add that simce you'll be halfway there anyway. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I just want to stop the oil leak for now......... |
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| Loosen up floor board, you don't have to take off.
Remove 6 Allen bolts. Top 2 are dowels with through holes for the bolts.
Revive wire from retainer clip, that will give you some slack.
Remove cover and lay on towel that you have placed on exhaust and floor board.
Don't pull on wires and you will be fine. They are for your timing sensor.
Plug hole in lower part of case so nothing can fall in.
Remove old gasket and install in reverse order.
This is not hard to do just don't drop anything into the hole inside the gear case.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Thank you Rammurry......... |
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| Did you try tighting the bolts first. Less work to do |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Yep they were all pretty tight. Thanks anyway....... |
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Lexington Park, MD | Steve if you havent done this already, you got the needed info from Rammury just don't forget your torque on the cover bolts and that you have a socket that taht size and also when installing the cover the rubber grommet on the left side of the cover seats in very well but can slip out of alignment with the cover as you install. Caught that before torquing down. Its grooved so fits very niclely. I was able to access very well removing the rear floor board bolt and loosing the front. Good luck!
Safe ridin, Tim |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Thanks all, I just replaced gasket, really nothing to it. Take floorbaord off and then remove cover. really pretty esay.......... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Ok this story is not finished. The Victory gasket that was used held on for about 250 miles then devloped an even smaller leak AND not in the exact same location but very close. So next I got a Lloydz reuseable gastket to replace. While I had the cover off and the crank position sensor disconnected I placed the cover on a 100% flat marble inspection table and low and behold the cover is NOT pefectly flush. Their is a small bit of rocking to the tune of about .020". It seems the cover must be an imperfect casting. It is not machined just cast, then polished and chromed. I have the way thicker lloydz gasket in place right now and have 80 miles and 1 hour 30 minutes on it with no leaks yet. If it does leak again I guess I'll need a new Cam Drive cover. Hopefully not...........The bike only has 1900 miles on it. My 08 Vision has over 30,000 miles and never even weeped a drop of oil. |
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seattle, wa |
The way you are always talking about high performance stuff for Vics, I though you would've gone for the 116" supercharger since you were replacing the gasket anyways.
HA!
Good deal you got the problem fixed. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | rwilly - 2013-07-06 9:13 PM
The way you are always talking about high performance stuff for Vics, I though you would've gone for the 116" supercharger since you were replacing the gasket anyways.
HA!
Good deal you got the problem fixed.
Maybe one day brother, just a wish list for now. I need some more $$$$$$. Don't we all ?? |
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| XRsteve - 2013-07-06 11:40 AM
Ok this story is not finished. The Victory gasket that was used held on for about 250 miles then devloped an even smaller leak AND not in the exact same location but very close. So next I got a Lloydz reuseable gastket to replace. While I had the cover off and the crank position sensor disconnected I placed the cover on a 100% flat marble inspection table and low and behold the cover is NOT pefectly flush. Their is a small bit of rocking to the tune of about .020". It seems the cover must be an imperfect casting. It is not machined just cast, then polished and chromed. I have the way thicker lloydz gasket in place right now and have 80 miles and 1 hour 30 minutes on it with no leaks yet. If it does leak again I guess I'll need a new Cam Drive cover. Hopefully not...........The bike only has 1900 miles on it. My 08 Vision has over 30,000 miles and never even weeped a drop of oil.
Hey Steve,
Can't you just put some coarse valve lapping compound and WD40 on a piece of glass and just lap it flat? That sealing surface is pretty narrow so it probably wouldn't take very long. For that matter if you wanted to do it faster you could tape a piece of medium grit wet/dry sand paper to the glass, wet it and flatten it out that way. .010" or .020" comes off easy once you get through the chrome. I'd hesitate to use a belt sander since it might come off too fast.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | marcparnes - 2013-07-07 3:37 PM
XRsteve - 2013-07-06 11:40 AM
Ok this story is not finished. The Victory gasket that was used held on for about 250 miles then devloped an even smaller leak AND not in the exact same location but very close. So next I got a Lloydz reuseable gastket to replace. While I had the cover off and the crank position sensor disconnected I placed the cover on a 100% flat marble inspection table and low and behold the cover is NOT pefectly flush. Their is a small bit of rocking to the tune of about .020". It seems the cover must be an imperfect casting. It is not machined just cast, then polished and chromed. I have the way thicker lloydz gasket in place right now and have 80 miles and 1 hour 30 minutes on it with no leaks yet. If it does leak again I guess I'll need a new Cam Drive cover. Hopefully not...........The bike only has 1900 miles on it. My 08 Vision has over 30,000 miles and never even weeped a drop of oil.
Hey Steve,
Can't you just put some coarse valve lapping compound and WD40 on a piece of glass and just lap it flat? That sealing surface is pretty narrow so it probably wouldn't take very long. For that matter if you wanted to do it faster you could tape a piece of medium grit wet/dry sand paper to the glass, wet it and flatten it out that way. .010" or .020" comes off easy once you get through the chrome. I'd hesitate to use a belt sander since it might come off too fast.
Marc
I thought about all that. Right now waiting to ride it some more. It's been raining down here in Georgia for 6 days now with just small breaks. Maybe soon...........
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | XRsteve - 2013-07-06 2:40 PM
The bike only has 1900 miles on it.
Hang on a minute. 1900 miles? Did you buy the bike new? Is it still under warranty? If so, take it back to the dealer (any dealer) and have them fix it. |
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Iron Butt
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| XRsteve - 2013-07-07 3:07 PM
marcparnes - 2013-07-07 3:37 PM
XRsteve - 2013-07-06 11:40 AM
Ok this story is not finished. The Victory gasket that was used held on for about 250 miles then devloped an even smaller leak AND not in the exact same location but very close. So next I got a Lloydz reuseable gastket to replace. While I had the cover off and the crank position sensor disconnected I placed the cover on a 100% flat marble inspection table and low and behold the cover is NOT pefectly flush. Their is a small bit of rocking to the tune of about .020". It seems the cover must be an imperfect casting. It is not machined just cast, then polished and chromed. I have the way thicker lloydz gasket in place right now and have 80 miles and 1 hour 30 minutes on it with no leaks yet. If it does leak again I guess I'll need a new Cam Drive cover. Hopefully not...........The bike only has 1900 miles on it. My 08 Vision has over 30,000 miles and never even weeped a drop of oil.
Hey Steve,
Can't you just put some coarse valve lapping compound and WD40 on a piece of glass and just lap it flat? That sealing surface is pretty narrow so it probably wouldn't take very long. For that matter if you wanted to do it faster you could tape a piece of medium grit wet/dry sand paper to the glass, wet it and flatten it out that way. .010" or .020" comes off easy once you get through the chrome. I'd hesitate to use a belt sander since it might come off too fast.
Marc
I thought about all that. Right now waiting to ride it some more. It's been raining down here in Georgia for 6 days now with just small breaks. Maybe soon...........I figured you probably did. We'll be down there for the start of a 12K mile trip after Labor Day. Sure as hell hope it rains itself out by then :-(
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Yeah it's till under warranty, they replaced the original gasket once with OEM type. Did not fix the problem.......... If It leaks again I'll probably get them to get me a new cam cover. A Flat one let's hope......... |
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Buford, GA United States | I parked my Vision next to a Harley and mine leaked at the same spot as yours for 2 days. I took it to the dealer and he changed the oil and told me to watch the area and see if it continued leaking. That was 3 or 4 years and 35,000 miles ago and not another leak. I am just careful about parking it next to a sick Harley... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Hahahahahaha.................Hope that'll work for me too.......... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | 190 miles, about 3 hours on gasket no leaks. I'll call it fixed at 10 hours or 500 miles whichever comes first......... The lloydz gasket is at least twice as thick as OEM. Keep finger crossed my friends. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Getting close 350 miles just about 7 hours, almost ready to call it fixed. But the cover is still warped. Must have been #50 on a 100 run and slipped by the inspectors table...........It happens when things are being mass produced. |
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