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Puddle Jumper
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Robins AFB, GA | Can anyone enlighten me as to whether or not there is some sort of anti-shimmy components installed on an '11 Vision Tour? I recently started using a front disk brake lock when parking the bike in less-civilized areas, and recently started up and tried to ride off, only to get slammed down thanks to my forgetfullness at taking the damned thing off. Problem: Since then, the bike's front end "feels" worse - less stable at low speeds, and more "whippy". It's just not right, and I'm wondering if I damaged any kind of shimmy damping device that I might have unbenownst to me. Thanks for your input(s)! |
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Visionary
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| I would think maybe bent rotor check with straight edge. doughty any thing ells. Go to dealer ask tech to drive it. Don't tell him anything other then it feels weird. That way he will not be influence by whet you tell him.
I have to ask why didn't you just use the steering lock. The bike has one built in |
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Puddle Jumper
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Robins AFB, GA | Thanks for your suggestion - I did try that already, but the tech thought there was nothing wrong. I do use my steering lock. Just felt better about the extra security associated with a disk lock. But I am reminded of the reason I quit using this forum over a year ago. If you're a new Vision rider, lots of folks answer posts about your ride, with enthusiasm and congratulations. When I ask simple questions of folks who have more experience than me, which is what this section is supposed to be for, all I get is crickets. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | You're getting an answer from people who try to see the logic of what other people do, but don't see it. Chances are, you'll get that kind of reaction here as well as anywhere else. I usually do some solid silent research before I ask my question. With that out of the way, I hope this will help you make an assessment. No, there is no steering dampener. Chances are you damaged your front rotor or caliper when you slammed over 1,000 lbs onto the lock attached to a non-stress member used only for braking. Without personal examination there is no way to guess an answer for you. A lot of times when things like this happens, our mind plays tricks on us, but I think that is compounded in the fact you may have warped or bent the caliper mount or the rotor itself causing it to drag. Raise the bike and spin the front wheel to see what it does. That's my crickets...
Edited by varyder 2013-09-02 10:45 AM
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | welcome back |
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Puddle Jumper
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Robins AFB, GA | I think you may be right about the caliper or rotor, but would think that would cause an odd feeling when braking only. The bike brakes smoothly (although with an annoying squeal - done that since about 4,000 miles) - it just feels unexplainably unstable at extreme low speeds - something I definitely did not feel prior to the incident. Other than that, it rides fine. Strange, huh? |
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Puddle Jumper
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Robins AFB, GA | okie vision - 2013-09-02 11:02 AM
welcome back
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Tourer
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New Mexico | StanLaurel - 2013-09-02 9:00 AM
But I am reminded of the reason I quit using this forum over a year ago. If you're a new Vision rider, lots of folks answer posts about your ride, with enthusiasm and congratulations. When I ask simple questions of folks who have more experience than me, which is what this section is supposed to be for, all I get is crickets.
Sent you a PM... |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Need to take a good long look at the leg |
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Jasper, MO | kevinx - 2013-09-02 1:59 PM
Need to take a good long look at the leg
That's what I was thinking too. I wonder if the fork tube could be slightly bent from the torque of the disc lock hitting the fork. You would probably need a good straight edge held against it to see it.
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Puddle Jumper
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huntington In. | I would look at the fork first. I had a bent rotor on my last bike. Caused a bad vibration, like an out of balance tire.
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Visionary
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| say care a bandanna or something you can put on the grip to remind you of the lock.
Thank Vic for tip overs |
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Puddle Jumper
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Robins AFB, GA | I will check the fork, and hope like hell that ain't it. $$$$ |
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Visionary
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| guys the bike never went more then a foot I bet and never much over idle speed. So when it tip over there cold not be that much damage if any.
Not trying to be mean or nasty but I think hes second guessing the bike |
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Puddle Jumper
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Norman, OK | go through the front wheel tightening sequence. can't hurt, might help |
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Iron Butt
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| John, even with nearly just one full full revolution the moving mass of the bike alone would create quite a bit of torque once the lock came in contact with the caliper but also keep in mind that he was pulling away from a parked spot and that means he wasn't simply idling but actually on the throttle, plus being on the throttle means that in the instant the front wheel locked up there was still power being applied to the rear wheel meaning additional torque being added after lock up. If not a bent tube I would strongly look at the alignment of the upper and lower triple trees as they could have been knocked out and that would cause a stability issue at slower speeds. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Robins AFB, GA | Travelin Man - 2013-09-07 5:00 PM
John, even with nearly just one full full revolution the moving mass of the bike alone would create quite a bit of torque once the lock came in contact with the caliper but also keep in mind that he was pulling away from a parked spot and that means he wasn't simply idling but actually on the throttle, plus being on the throttle means that in the instant the front wheel locked up there was still power being applied to the rear wheel meaning additional torque being added after lock up. If not a bent tube I would strongly look at the alignment of the upper and lower triple trees as they could have been knocked out and that would cause a stability issue at slower speeds.
This sounds all too plausible. Now I just have to find someone who can check these for me in the Central GA area. There is really not much Victory presence around here. The two dealerships within an easy day's drive are just what I'd call "dabblers" in Victory motorcycles..... |
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Cruiser
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Bullhead City, AZ | Any bike mech should be able to check the brake and fork. I have a friend that replaces forks and rotors for people that forget to take the brake locks off the rotors.
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Tourer
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| Did the bike toss you off during the incident?
I did the same stupid thing to my bike, not once, but twice, and it did no damage. Mental blocks can be worse the actual damage.
Inspect the front end of the bike closely, you may find another problem that is the real issue, or you might not.
Oh, I also stopped using a disk lock. |
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