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rwilly
Posted 2013-11-24 5:48 PM (#149141)
Subject: Spark Plugs


Tourer

Posts: 523
seattle, wa
I changed my plugs today just for peace of mind. I have 10k miles on these. The rear plug is wet with oil near the base, as if there is oil blow by the threads of the plug. As long as these plugs are, that's a lot of thread for the oil to seep by. Could it be a porous head near the plug?
What say you?



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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-11-24 6:02 PM (#149142 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


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How tight was the plug. If the plug is not tight enough it will not crush the sealing washer.
look at out side of boot was it wet with oil? If not then the rocker box is not leaking.
Look in owners book it will tell you torque spec guess it was not tight
Plugs look awfully black like way rich. What are you getting for mileage and what have you done to the bike
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rwilly
Posted 2013-11-24 11:09 PM (#149153 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


Tourer

Posts: 523
seattle, wa
I bet you are right, the plug wasn't correctly torqued down.

My mileage is right around 40 MPG and the mods I have are...

VFC
Lloydz top air filter
Lloydz IAV valve
Lloydz cams

Last time I messed with the settings I was trying to get it to run richer to get rid of the popping.

Thanks, Ron

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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-11-26 5:48 PM (#149175 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


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Posts: 4278
Ron get a hold of Rylan at the vic shop and he can tell you a good setting to start with
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Vladezip
Posted 2013-12-09 10:13 PM (#149524 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


Glendale, AZ United States
Wow, those look horrible.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-12-10 6:26 PM (#149542 - in reply to #149524)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


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Vladezip - 2013-12-09 10:13 PM Wow, those look horrible.

 

post a photo of your so we know what others looks like

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Vladezip
Posted 2013-12-10 8:58 PM (#149549 - in reply to #149542)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


Glendale, AZ United States
johnnyvision - 2013-12-10 5:26 PM

Vladezip - 2013-12-09 10:13 PM Wow, those look horrible.

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post a photo of your so we know what others looks like



I would, but the used plugs have been put in the trash after I finished the service. Up in Prescott a few weeks back. Chilly and raining, but fun.



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Vladezip
Posted 2013-12-10 9:01 PM (#149550 - in reply to #149549)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


Glendale, AZ United States
Sorry. I posted the pic twice. I apologize. I am still trying to get used to the format here. Vlad.
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kevinx
Posted 2013-12-11 10:15 AM (#149560 - in reply to #149142)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
johnnyvision - 2013-11-24 7:02 PM

How tight was the plug. If the plug is not tight enough it will not crush the sealing washer.
look at out side of boot was it wet with oil? If not then the rocker box is not leaking.
Look in owners book it will tell you torque spec guess it was not tight
Plugs look awfully black like way rich. What are you getting for mileage and what have you done to the bike


Can't judge a plug without knowing what was happening prior to it being pulled. Simple cold start will make a plug look like crap in seconds
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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-12-11 6:25 PM (#149576 - in reply to #149560)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


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kevinx - 2013-12-11 10:15 AM johnnyvision - 2013-11-24 7:02 PM How tight was the plug. If the plug is not tight enough it will not crush the sealing washer. look at out side of boot was it wet with oil? If not then the rocker box is not leaking. Look in owners book it will tell you torque spec guess it was not tight Plugs look awfully black like way rich. What are you getting for mileage and what have you done to the bike Can't judge a plug without knowing what was happening prior to it being pulled. Simple cold start will make a plug look like crap in seconds

Kevinx

you missed the oil on the sholder of the plug

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willtill
Posted 2013-12-11 6:32 PM (#149577 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


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Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
I do not believe in "plug chops". You can most certainly pull a plug and wipe the loose residue from it at any operation of the engine; and still read the resultant overall condition of the A/F mixture.
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kevinx
Posted 2013-12-12 8:41 AM (#149593 - in reply to #149576)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
johnnyvision - 2013-12-11 7:25 PM

kevinx - 2013-12-11 10:15 AM johnnyvision - 2013-11-24 7:02 PM How tight was the plug. If the plug is not tight enough it will not crush the sealing washer. look at out side of boot was it wet with oil? If not then the rocker box is not leaking. Look in owners book it will tell you torque spec guess it was not tight Plugs look awfully black like way rich. What are you getting for mileage and what have you done to the bike Can't judge a plug without knowing what was happening prior to it being pulled. Simple cold start will make a plug look like crap in seconds

Kevinx

you missed the oil on the sholder of the plug


Not convinced it is oil, or at least from inside the cyl. Looking at the stain on the porcelain, and noting the lack of color on the threads. It appears that something may have puddled in the plug well from the outside

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diamonbird
Posted 2013-12-12 5:08 PM (#149611 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


Cruiser

Posts: 251
Mechanicsville, VA United States
KevinX or a weeping head at the plug seat....maybe!?
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rwilly
Posted 2013-12-12 5:58 PM (#149614 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


Tourer

Posts: 523
seattle, wa
I will get a few more miles on the new plugs and take a look to see if the residue is on them.
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NoMoHD
Posted 2013-12-17 1:29 PM (#149776 - in reply to #149141)
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 28
Carrollton, TX
Don'r forget to put a dab of anti-sieze on the threads
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