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chgovision
Posted 2014-10-27 11:54 AM (#167485)
Subject: HELP


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 24
Chicago
I recently installed a PCV W/AUTO TUNE & Timing gear +6* on my vision, It had a set of victory stage 1 pipes and down load already. The issue I am having is when I am at idle and "blip" the throttle it dies out, The afr is 13.2 across the board and I have accepted the trim levels every 500 miles
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willtill
Posted 2014-10-27 1:45 PM (#167487 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: Re: HELP


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Hate to say but many Visions don't like to be "blipped" at idle. Mine will sometimes die as well.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2014-10-27 5:58 PM (#167489 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: Re: HELP


Visionary

Posts: 4278
what is your map settings for idle,
Rylan at the vic shop says vision run best at +2 not at 6
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Lotzafun
Posted 2014-10-27 6:17 PM (#167492 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: Help with bike dying when I blip my throttle


Iron Butt

Posts: 935
Rockford, IL

Might want to do some research on the timing gear. Most everyone is set at +4 with a few at +3 and maybe a couple at +5. I don't think hardly anyone is set at +6. However I could be wrong.....maybe.....but probably not.

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am. Quit blipping, Visions do not like to be blipped.

 

 

 

 

p.s. there is lots of room in the thread title area. Room for info other than just "help"

 

 



Edited by Lotzafun 2014-10-27 6:22 PM
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Nozzledog
Posted 2014-10-27 9:58 PM (#167493 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: RE: HELP


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Don't set anything for Idle or 2%. (0 in both AFR and map). Let the ECU control those fuel mixtures.



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Oldman47
Posted 2014-10-27 10:02 PM (#167494 - in reply to #167492)
Subject: Re: HELP


Tourer

Posts: 573
Central Illinois
A setting of +6 is way too high for a Vision. Recent posts by the experts like Rylan and Kevin have indicated a setting of +2 as a starting point for a Vision. I am getting away with a +3 setting but when I was at the Vic Shop recently Rylan was a bit surprised that I was getting away with it. Steel frame bikes are routinely getting away with +4 settings, not Visions.
I have never had an issue with blipping on my Vision but it is something I rarely do.
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chgovision
Posted 2014-10-28 10:27 AM (#167499 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: Re: HELP


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 24
Chicago
I have set the gear at +4*, I tried +2 and with premium gas no detonation than went to +4 as far as performance I did not see much of a difference at either of those settings. Next thing to do is get the bike to Rylan for cams and other upgrades and let him work his magic.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2014-10-28 11:00 AM (#167500 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: Re: HELP


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
after you get this resolved.. (which you will) if you have decal popping, let me know i can kill it by using the pc5 and auto tuner. i just dont want to hi-jack this right now.. no need to purchase anything else to prevent or stop the popping.. just use the pc5 and auto tuner
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kevinx
Posted 2014-11-02 8:51 PM (#168546 - in reply to #167493)
Subject: RE: HELP


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Nozzledog - 2014-10-27 10:58 PM

Don't set anything for Idle or 2%. (0 in both AFR and map). Let the ECU control those fuel mixtures.


I add fuel in both of those areas. Letting the ECM control that even with O2 unplugged. Gives you low/mid 14's. 13.2-13.4 lowers pops, and eliminates stalls
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2014-11-03 10:56 AM (#168551 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: Re: HELP


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
i Add fuel in the zero areas as well to kill decel popping. its better successful. that is (after checking for leaks of gaskets and what not)
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Turk
Posted 2014-11-05 7:19 AM (#168563 - in reply to #167485)
Subject: Re: HELP


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
I hard code fuel removal in those idle areas....but turn the AT cells off so it doesn't alter it. As far as running 13.2 across the board, that is WAYYYY too rich, and it's probably masking some detonation issues at +6 on the timing wheel. My Vision doesn't like anything above +1 on the timing wheel in the heat of the summer. But it runs damned strong with AFR's in the 13.5 range for acceleration.... 13.7-13.8 at cruise, idle, and low rpm/low throttle opening ranges.



Edited by Turk 2014-11-05 7:23 AM
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