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WingMan71
Posted 2016-02-02 8:57 AM (#178550)
Subject: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 30
Atlanta, GA
Time for another new rear tire on my friend's Vision, so we're pulling the rear wheel tomorrow.

We never had a problem with removing the rear wheel, but last time we had one heck of a time getting the wheel re-installed. We got stuck on step 7 on page 13.15 of the Factory Service Manual.

Basically it tells you to position the wheel back between the swingarm and insert the axle into and through the swingarm, axle adjuster, brake caliper bracket, left spacer, wheel, right wheel spacer,right axle adjuster, and right swingarm until you can install the retaining plate.

Well... let me tell you... that's easier said than done!

It must have taken us an hour to get all those pieces properly lined up and the axle back through the whole mess. (The brake caliper bracket was a significant part of the alignment problem.)

If anyone has any tips or lessons learned about getting the axle back through all that stuff we would appreciate it!

Thanks!

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varyder
Posted 2016-02-02 9:22 AM (#178551 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
It is a struggle, but it is very easy once you get the knack. The key is removing the swing arm bolt and letting it drop to remove the axle. This makes it easier to lower the bike over the tire and line up the left side, get the brake caliper in place and the adjuster. Be sure to lightly grease the axle before inserting. Slide to the right side, that is usually the challenge because the spacer almost always drops out. With the spacer in place, it's just a matter of moving the tire angle enough and make sure the holes are all aligned. I cannot almost do it blind folded.
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WingMan71
Posted 2016-02-02 9:38 AM (#178552 - in reply to #178551)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 30
Atlanta, GA
varyder - 2016-02-02 10:22 AM

... The key is removing the swing arm bolt and letting it drop to remove the axle. This makes it easier to lower the bike over the tire and line up the left side...


Thanks very much for the reply and info.

Could you please explain a bit more about the sentence in your quote above? When you say swing arm bolt are you referring to the two lower pushrod bolts that attach the swing arm? Or, are you talking about the axle bolt?

Thanks.
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dan camarco
Posted 2016-02-02 10:14 AM (#178553 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Cruiser

Posts: 206
Lumber Bridge, NC United States
the bolt on the air shock take that out and the swing arm lowers down.
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varyder
Posted 2016-02-02 10:41 AM (#178554 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I usually just undo the lower push-rod bolt. That allows enough swingage to allow the axle bolt to clear the exhaust. I had to show a dealer how to do this once, yikes, they were disassembling my bike just to get the axle bolt out.
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WingMan71
Posted 2016-02-02 10:44 AM (#178555 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 30
Atlanta, GA
Push rod bolt. That's what I thought.

Thanks!
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ByteN2it
Posted 2016-02-02 12:07 PM (#178558 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: RE: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
Two tips that I do: use a second small scissor jack under the wheel rather than raising and lowering the whole bike-just keep the bike up on the lift and raise/lower the rear wheel & use some grease to "glue" the spacers in. The other trick I use on my 99 and haven't tried on the Vision is to use a short piece of wood dowel/broomstick that's a bit smaller diameter than the axle to get everything lined up and then push it out with the axle-makes it much easier when your working alone.
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varyder
Posted 2016-02-02 12:12 PM (#178559 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I use the grease to "glue" the spacer in also, the right one almost always wants to drop. I've used a long screwdriver to keep everything aligned, but I've gotten to the point it's really not necessary, well, except to keep that aggravating spacer from jumping...
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johnnyvision
Posted 2016-02-02 5:54 PM (#178563 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Visionary

Posts: 4271
With link rod bolt out you can get at axle bolt. Now put 2x4 down and put wheel on to of it.
Never mess with axle adjuster and your belt will be fine
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Street Eagle
Posted 2016-02-03 3:24 PM (#178581 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
The guys above covered my tips....drop the rear shock bolt and use a jack to support the rear wheel. I have a car/hydraulic jack thats on wheels. Easy to position both the horizontal and vertical axis of the rear wheel
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WingMan71
Posted 2016-02-06 10:21 AM (#178650 - in reply to #178550)
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 30
Atlanta, GA
We got the wheel installed yesterday! Much easier this time.

Thanks for all the tips guys.

In addition to those tips we did two other things differently this time that really helped:

1. We put the square pad on the brake caliper bracket back into it's slot on the swing arm BEFORE moving the tire into position under the bike. (You have to be a bit careful to get the rotor back in between the two brake pads doing it this way, but it's easier than the other way around.)

2. We used a round tapered 12" long metal alignment rod and inserted it into the right side of the swing arm and through the adjuster and wheel spacer BEFORE we tried to get the axle inserted into the left side swing arm, brake caliper bracket, adjuster, and wheel spacer. That held the entire right side in place while we worked to align all the left side stuff and get the axle in. Made it much easier.

Again, thanks much for all the tips!

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Turk
Posted 2016-02-08 8:22 AM (#178682 - in reply to #178558)
Subject: RE: Rear Wheel Installation - any Tips?


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
ByteN2it - 2016-02-02 12:07 PM

Two tips that I do: use a second small scissor jack under the wheel rather than raising and lowering the whole bike-just keep the bike up on the lift and raise/lower the rear wheel & use some grease to "glue" the spacers in. The other trick I use on my 99 and haven't tried on the Vision is to use a short piece of wood dowel/broomstick that's a bit smaller diameter than the axle to get everything lined up and then push it out with the axle-makes it much easier when your working alone.


This is EXACTLY what I do! Scissor jack, and wood dowel to help line things up, then chase the axle behind the dowel through all the misc pieces....

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