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MN. | http://www.bmwxplor.com/bcc
Check the link out above. Seems BMW had the idea first, they are pretty similar. |
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Iron Butt
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Linwood, MI | I think some of the stuff on looks pretty good, but I'm not a fan of the retro-bobber look. Never cared for it. I'm with Vic and Kevin on this. Whatever it's intended to be, I hope it's for filling some holes, like the entry-level bike. |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | When I look at this bike, I only see the frame. I believe Victory wants you to see the CORE (frame) not the bike. The bike you see here is just bike stuff added to the CORE, I don't believe they put too much developement into the items they attached to the frame. I believe it could be the CORE to several different types of motorcycle. I look forward to what Victory does with this CORE.
I don't believe Victory will make an entry level small cc motorcycle. Not sure if they can manufacture one at their facility and make money on it. |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | LOL
I'm trying to envision the potential consequences of selling an ENTRY LEVEL bike with a 106 ci engine, a dry weight of 450 lbs and no rear suspension.
Another generation of product liability lawyers are gonna send their kids to Harvard on that concept.
I hear the Victory marketing department channeling Jonathan Swift and Jerry Pournelle.
"I have a "Modest Proposal" for you! Lets pass them out with HS diplomas in states without helmet laws!"
"We can think of it as EVOLUTION IN ACTION! Only the smart, strong, quick, and lucky get to pass on their genetic code!"
Can you see the advertising?
"This motorcycle is more than an industrial design project it's also a social experiment! Two mints in one!" (Yo SongFan, heres a poster for you!)
I'm think perhaps I'll going to buy a couple and give one to all the boys that show up at my door to date my daughters. If they live out the week they pass the first test!
Personally, I love the thing what ever it is.
Too bad that I'm just too old to be comfortable on one, and too self conscious to be seen on one. I would feel like a billboard for mid-life crisis and after 5 miles i would be the poster child for spinal misalignment.
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | This is what I told Mr. Song when I was at the AVR this past year. Build a light weight high powered V-twin sport bike and I would have to buy it. When I look at the CORE, all they have to do is bring the front rake back in a few degrees, bolt on a single swing-arm-mono shock, no BIG tire, bring the pegs back a tad, and put some padding on the seat. Get it up to ~120 hp and keep the weight down to ~400 lbs and keep the price in the 8-ball range. "Giddy-up" Anybody want that bike to run the Dragon or any other twisty. You talk about putting a smile on your face. This would be the second bike in my garage.   |
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Tourer
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | Yuck....my 2 c |
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Cruiser
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| What it is...is the first product of a new manufacturing process, and a glimpse of the design possibilities that process creates. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | lowtone9 - 2009-01-17 10:41 PM
What it is...is the first product of a new manufacturing process, and a glimpse of the design possibilities that process creates.
The Vision is made with a much more advanced casting process. Sand casting is only good for very low production. Only thing Vic learned with the Core was wood carving. |
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Cruiser
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Coastal , NJ | Being at the IMS show an hour after the reveal , I can tell you this concept did what it was designed to do - show people that they are a forward thinking company. I over heard more than a few conversations there. I then strolled over to the HD display where there were NO concept bikes . I really doubt that Victory spent millions on this. I'd actually be surprised if they spent over 50k on actually building it. It is a non running concept.
Talking to Mike Song about it only reaffirmed my belief that Victory is going to continue to build new,different and innovative bikes. Walking around the show in NYC I didn't get that vibe from any other manufacturer. It doesn't seem all that long ago that we were talking about the Visteon Concept bike. 6 years later we had the Vision . 9 years ago this was my touring bike:
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Well said Mark. While I talked with the Victory folks at the IMS, countless people asked, "How much will it cost?" and "When will it be available?" The Victory engineers as well as I answered countless times that it was a CONCEPT. While people contemplated the bike, engineers took down tons of notes on their responses. Victory is no dummy, they listen to their customers. The Core was the catalyst for customers' comments, and therefore cues for Victory. The Core should not be judged, it should be used as a launch pad to dream & imagine. In that way, Mike Song has done very well.
BTW, just because Victory shows us this exercise design, do not think this is all they have in the development pipeline. That would be severely shortsighted.
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