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Prime Power

Posted 2009-08-27 5:57 PM (#42602 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 256

So you do have to buy the factory ones just for the mounts?

Prostreet1

Posted 2009-08-27 7:53 PM (#42609 - in reply to #42340)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 184
Allen Park, MI

Blackjack - 2009-08-25 6:30 AM

Let me see if i understand correctly: you have to buy the Vision lowers for $249 (just so i can have the mounting brackets) then the basic black power coat from cycleops $149 total of $398 for lower defectors. f you want chrome (the only way to go) it's $578. Either way thats a lot of cash to move some heat, cold or rain. Unless someone can tell me of a supplier for just the mounting brackets.

Blackjack

...ya I was all excited about cyclops coming out with them....but to spend $249 just for brackets??? I missed the part about "replacement" deflectors...bummer. Too rich for this guy.

devilboy

Posted 2009-08-27 9:41 PM (#42625 - in reply to #42609)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida

Prostreet1 - 2009-08-27 7:53 PM

Blackjack - 2009-08-25 6:30 AM

Let me see if i understand correctly: you have to buy the Vision lowers for $249 (just so i can have the mounting brackets) then the basic black power coat from cycleops $149 total of $398 for lower defectors. f you want chrome (the only way to go) it's $578. Either way thats a lot of cash to move some heat, cold or rain. Unless someone can tell me of a supplier for just the mounting brackets.

Blackjack

...ya I was all excited about cyclops coming out with them....but to spend $249 just for brackets??? I missed the part about "replacement" deflectors...bummer. Too rich for this guy.

Hell if you can afford all the other add ons(like the rest of us) whats a couple more $$.
IMHO the Victory units with Plexi are not fully functional and subject to cracking due to mounting holes mounted very close to edge. BUT I can't tell you how to spend your money

VaParadox

Posted 2009-08-27 11:27 PM (#42631 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia

flip flops? tank shirt? shorty shorts? Ok, i love you guys but i gotta say something here. When you come into my hospitals emergency room torn to shreds with no ability to repair the only set of skin you got. DONT DARE CRY AND SAY "WHY ME"....
.... bud, its obvious that you love the woman, make her put on more clothes when she rides... none of us on here wanna read a posting of bad news from you buddy.....

Blackjack

Posted 2009-08-28 6:21 AM (#42639 - in reply to #42625)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Tourer

Posts: 367
Cottage Grove, Mn

devilboy - 2009-08-27 8:41 PM

Prostreet1 - 2009-08-27 7:53 PM

Blackjack - 2009-08-25 6:30 AM

Let me see if i understand correctly: you have to buy the Vision lowers for $249 (just so i can have the mounting brackets) then the basic black power coat from cycleops $149 total of $398 for lower defectors. f you want chrome (the only way to go) it's $578. Either way thats a lot of cash to move some heat, cold or rain. Unless someone can tell me of a supplier for just the mounting brackets.

Blackjack

...ya I was all excited about cyclops coming out with them....but to spend $249 just for brackets??? I missed the part about "replacement" deflectors...bummer. Too rich for this guy.

Prostreet1

Posted 2009-08-28 6:36 AM (#42643 - in reply to #42639)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 184
Allen Park, MI

Blackjack - 2009-08-28 6:21 AM

devilboy - 2009-08-27 8:41 PM

Prostreet1 - 2009-08-27 7:53 PM

Blackjack - 2009-08-25 6:30 AM

Let me see if i understand correctly: you have to buy the Vision lowers for $249 (just so i can have the mounting brackets) then the basic black power coat from cycleops $149 total of $398 for lower defectors. f you want chrome (the only way to go) it's $578. Either way thats a lot of cash to move some heat, cold or rain. Unless someone can tell me of a supplier for just the mounting brackets.

Blackjack

...ya I was all excited about cyclops coming out with them....but to spend $249 just for brackets??? I missed the part about "replacement" deflectors...bummer. Too rich for this guy.

Devilboy

Believe me I have NOOO problem spending money on either one of my bikes, but it has to make since to me and spending $200 plus just to get $50 worth of brackets does not make sense (kind of like kissing your sister) especially since I do not have a huge problem with the heat coming from the motor even in triple digit temps.
Hell I would buy them just for the looks just not at that price.
I can only wonder why Cycleops dose not make the brackets for their lowers.

Agreed Blackjack...I believe Will (Cycleops) said the brackets were to involved to replicate. Again I would buy these in a heartbeat IF I already had the stock deflectors already...they are pretty sharp looking and I have already heard, read as well as been told how much these deflectors help for cooling as well as blocking of the cold. Everyone has said that it is the one upgrade they would never do without. So I guess I will purchase the stock ones....and maybe just maybe next year I will find a way to justify buying the "replacements". Hey I don't mind the 2 cents or opinions such as Devilboys...he's a good joe. Its just a money thing with me as you stated above.

Coop

varyder

Posted 2009-08-28 7:12 AM (#42646 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

all right, where are the intelligent folk making fabbing the brackets for these things? can it be that hard???? I've not looked at this things up close as I've not had no interest until the billets came along. I still want to solid mount these things and not "tape" them on, that is just wrong to itself. yeah, it'll hold for a few years but you will not stop the glue deteriation and someone brushes against it or you're adjusting going down the road and it comes off in your hand. let's make this a permanent fixture, someone.

devilboy

Posted 2009-08-28 10:06 AM (#42658 - in reply to #42639)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida

Devilboy

Believe me I have NOOO problem spending money on either one of my bikes, but it has to make since to me and spending $200 plus just to get $50 worth of brackets does not make sense (kind of like kissing your sister) especially since I do not have a huge problem with the heat coming from the motor even in triple digit temps.
Hell I would buy them just for the looks just not at that price.
I can only wonder why Cycleops dose not make the brackets for their lowers.

I agree it is a big chunk of money. I looked through every motorcycle and automotive website looking at mounting brackets that might work, I found nothing.
I am sure there are other ways to do it.
Yes it does kill me to spend $180(discounted price) for deflector package. and then $149 for billet
I met Gerry up in Canada and sent him my plexis(no charge shipping or for product)
and we have had great discussions on how to fix the world

I have never purchased anything from Will before, I know him almost 3 years. I guess the bigger problem was with the plexi deflectors and he saw a market and filled the void! Good old American Free Enterprise. He is looking at mounting solutions but nothing has jumped out and bit him yet!
I never had the lowers and was talked into them by a VMC buddy. HUGE difference!
I dont presume to spend anyone elses money, but I am sure if you can swing a Vision, you probably have a couple of dollars leftover for extras....
Ride Safe and Stay Cool!

Edited by devilboy 2009-08-28 10:08 AM

V spot

Posted 2009-08-28 10:08 AM (#42659 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: RE: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 123
Marysville Washngton

And could those same people who are smart and gifted figure out a way to make the rear turn signals sequential.

Who are these "people" and where do they live.

Blackjack

Posted 2009-08-28 6:31 PM (#42695 - in reply to #42658)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Tourer

Posts: 367
Cottage Grove, Mn

devilboy - 2009-08-28 9:06 AM

Blackjack - 2009-08-28 6:21 AM

devilboy - 2009-08-27 8:41 PM

Prostreet1 - 2009-08-27 7:53 PM

Blackjack - 2009-08-25 6:30 AM

Let me see if i understand correctly: you have to buy the Vision lowers for $249 (just so i can have the mounting brackets) then the basic black power coat from cycleops $149 total of $398 for lower defectors. f you want chrome (the only way to go) it's $578. Either way thats a lot of cash to move some heat, cold or rain. Unless someone can tell me of a supplier for just the mounting brackets.

Blackjack

...ya I was all excited about cyclops coming out with them....but to spend $249 just for brackets??? I missed the part about "replacement" deflectors...bummer. Too rich for this guy.

Devilboy

Believe me I have NOOO problem spending money on either one of my bikes, but it has to make since to me and spending $200 plus just to get $50 worth of brackets does not make sense (kind of like kissing your sister) especially since I do not have a huge problem with the heat coming from the motor even in triple digit temps.
Hell I would buy them just for the looks just not at that price.
I can only wonder why Cycleops dose not make the brackets for their lowers.

I agree it is a big chunk of money. I looked through every motorcycle and automotive website looking at mounting brackets that might work, I found nothing.
I am sure there are other ways to do it.
Yes it does kill me to spend $180(discounted price) for deflector package. and then $149 for billet
I met Gerry up in Canada and sent him my plexis(no charge shipping or for product)
and we have had great discussions on how to fix the world

outdoordave48

Posted 2009-08-28 7:48 PM (#42703 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 92
Eau Claire WIS. 09 vision

how about baker wings mount with screws on fairing never fall off and lower part and upper adjust seperatly. i have them and really like them got them in red and 15ft. from bike you can hardly see them...dave

devilboy

Posted 2009-08-28 8:01 PM (#42707 - in reply to #42695)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida

Blackjack - 2009-08-28 6:31 PM

devilboy - 2009-08-28 9:06 AM

Blackjack - 2009-08-28 6:21 AM

devilboy - 2009-08-27 8:41 PM

Prostreet1 - 2009-08-27 7:53 PM

Blackjack - 2009-08-25 6:30 AM

Let me see if i understand correctly: you have to buy the Vision lowers for $249 (just so i can have the mounting brackets) then the basic black power coat from cycleops $149 total of $398 for lower defectors. f you want chrome (the only way to go) it's $578. Either way thats a lot of cash to move some heat, cold or rain. Unless someone can tell me of a supplier for just the mounting brackets.

Blackjack

...ya I was all excited about cyclops coming out with them....but to spend $249 just for brackets??? I missed the part about "replacement" deflectors...bummer. Too rich for this guy.

Devilboy

Believe me I have NOOO problem spending money on either one of my bikes, but it has to make since to me and spending $200 plus just to get $50 worth of brackets does not make sense (kind of like kissing your sister) especially since I do not have a huge problem with the heat coming from the motor even in triple digit temps.
Hell I would buy them just for the looks just not at that price.
I can only wonder why Cycleops dose not make the brackets for their lowers.

I agree it is a big chunk of money. I looked through every motorcycle and automotive website looking at mounting brackets that might work, I found nothing.
I am sure there are other ways to do it.
Yes it does kill me to spend $180(discounted price) for deflector package. and then $149 for billet
I met Gerry up in Canada and sent him my plexis(no charge shipping or for product)
and we have had great discussions on how to fix the world

Edited by devilboy 2009-08-28 8:01 PM

CycleOps USA

Posted 2009-08-29 2:42 PM (#42764 - in reply to #42597)
Subject: RE: Lower Air Deflectors

Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

V spot - 2009-08-27 6:00 PM Installed the new chrome ones last night. They sure look purty.

Here Tim, let me help you show 'em off a little since a picture is worth a thousand words!

For those not familiar wih me or my company, the one thing you can be sure of is no one will give you the quality level of chrome I offer. I pay through the nose and there are many places I can do it for less, but to me, it's so much better it's worth every penny extra.

Edited by CycleOps USA 2009-08-29 3:06 PM

lennyb

Posted 2009-08-29 6:40 PM (#42778 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Iron Butt

Posts: 804
Perry Hall, MD

Hey Dave, any chance of posting some pics of the Baker wings on your bike?

CycleOps USA

Posted 2009-09-09 8:04 AM (#43595 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: RE: Lower Air Deflectors

Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Hey guys, thought I'd chime in and give some insight about the hinge/brackets.

As for getting your hands on some, that should be easier than you think. Why? Because all those who have broken theirs had to get replacement kits to get the plexi wings, meaning the brackets they had to buy to get them are around somewhere. I bet if you post a 'Want to Buy' thread. All who've had to buy a kit to get new plexi wings to replace their broken ones likely still have hinges laying around and I'm sure they'll sell them to you. Secondly, the hinges are the bigger expense in the kit as we all know the plastic wings themselves are the cheaper parts. This said, even if I did make and offer them, you probably would't save a whole bunch. Mark shopped around and got his for well under $200, $180 actually I think. This said, at $180 + $135 (discounted member price) it's $315 or so total to add our billet deflectors. Then, if you consider someone would likely buy the new clear ones from the kit for probably $50-100, it's not so bad after all.

As for making the hinges, they're a somewhat complicated fabrication. First, the way they attach to the lowers themselves is quite unique with the little welded 'arms', and secondly, the base is not only adjustable for tension, they also have compound curves, and each of the four hinges are different in this regard, the bottom of each having opposing curves. This means 4 different bracket bases are needed. Since Vics volume is great, they cast them in large numbers making them cost effective, relatively speaking. Now if it were the same one in all 4 places I'd make them up, but to do 4 different ones would be too costly for the numbers we'd have to do.

For the added airflow provided by our stiffer lowers over the flexible stock units, their last-forever durability, and the fact that they dress up and customize your ride, it's pretty much a no brainer.

Any of you guys other than Marc that have received yours by now care to give your two cents about them here?

outdoordave48

Posted 2009-09-09 8:25 AM (#43597 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 92
Eau Claire WIS. 09 vision

pic in my gallery of baker wings and cost is only about 150.00 and if i want down the line replace plexi wiht stainless....

Bubba

Posted 2009-09-09 9:05 AM (#43601 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 260

I can't understand why you would want to draw attention to that area on the bike. No disrespect to Will, but I think they do nothing for the look of the bike and it's lines. I have the Vic clears ones on, and yes at 70 - 80 all day on the Hwy they will move a tad, but they don't look like big honking chrome pices hanging on the bike. Also not disrespect to V-Spot, but they just don't do anything for your blue bike, especially with the asphalt reflection. Maybe if they were the same color of the bike??? Functionally they must be better, the way they fit the bike is another question. Again this is only my opinion.

Edited by Bubba 2009-09-09 9:06 AM

trailbarge

Posted 2009-09-09 11:39 AM (#43607 - in reply to #42490)
Subject: RE: Lower Air Deflectors

Tourer

Posts: 363
Goldsboro, NC

Charbin...

Whatever you do.... do NOT let that one go. Butter her up and treat her like diamonds, for she is even more rare.

trailbarge

charbin - 2009-08-26 3:19 PM

Guess I'd have to say that I'm one LUCKY guy - she likes to ride as much (maybe even more, if that's possible) than I do.

I drive, and she gazes at the countryside - she hands me the Gatorade jug every so often to ensure that I stay hydrated. She applies sunscreen to my face to make sure that I don't burn, and always has a tube of chapstick handy for our lips.

At gas stops, she hops off, inserts the credit card, hands me the pump, counts off the tenths of gallons, and grabs a rag in case I accidentally spill any.

I don't need no stinking reverse - she gladly pushes (gently from the front fairing) whenever it is necessary to back our baby up.

We attend motorcycle rallies quite regularly, and she helps me to spot the best scenery.

The only times that I ride without her is when going to/from the dealer for maintenance (we just cleared 15K on the odometer).

I thought that she would kill me when I ordered and installed all of the factory chrome as well as an LED system - instead, she simply beamed with pride at how great it all looked.

We'll be celebrating our 5th anniversary soon, and are flying down to Cancun over Labor Day to snorkel with the Whale Sharks (something that was on her bucket list).

Yes, I'm definitely one LUCKY guy!

V spot

Posted 2009-09-09 4:37 PM (#43624 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 123
Marysville Washngton

Bubba
My clear deflectors from the factory snapped in half as I walked by them and the right side caught the corner of a cargo pocket on my shorts. I really don't care for the heat as I am warm blooded but did not want to pay to order a complete replacement set from Victory and I did not want to take a chance on breaking them again either. If Victory would sell them seperately it might be a whole different situation but the plexi ones are very fragile. So, I went looking. CycleOps had the only good alternative on the market but I did not like any of the colors so went with chrome. I will be adding some chrome to the rest of the bike as time goes by so it seemed like a durable, sustainable and will match more and more as time goes by. As for that area and the look...well, refer to my remark about being warm blooded. There are trade offs associated with everything I guess. Clear or chrome, this is the best way so far to cool the legs down. As to the reflection of the gravel...next time I will try and get one of Songfan's Blue Ice Girls in the reflection.

Bubba

Posted 2009-09-09 4:40 PM (#43625 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 260

Again no disrespect intended. Just my 2 pennies worth. If they work for you thats all that counts.

CycleOps USA

Posted 2009-09-14 8:37 PM (#43989 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: RE: Lower Air Deflectors

Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Well guys, I want to thank those of you who purchased our new billet deflectors. I also want to make sure everyone's completely happy with them (Hope so!! ) while I'm at it. We've added some more photos if you want to see more installed pics...

CLICK the link: http://www.cycleopsusa.com/custombillet.html#wd

BTW Frank, no offense taken, as I know you well enough to know that, so it's all good, to each their own.

Edited by CycleOps USA 2009-09-14 8:42 PM

VisionNWRider

Posted 2009-09-15 4:33 PM (#44045 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Iron Butt

Posts: 639
Tri Cities, WA

I plan to buy the gloss black ones this fall from cyclops. So "Will" look for my order soon to West Richland, WA sir.

Folks I to had to make a choice of function over form. I did not like the looks of the lowers and felt it took away from the front fairing look. But after heat issues from the motor I gave in and put them on. I can say that they do work very well for thier intended use. I'm very pleased with the end results. I wish there was another way to get the same results I am getting with them now and i think going to cyclops new gloss balck ones will make them disappear more and give me the best of both worlds I'm looking for. Just my two cents.

charbin

Posted 2009-09-16 9:21 AM (#44096 - in reply to #41771)
Subject: Re: Lower Air Deflectors

Cruiser

Posts: 88
Lavon, TX

I agree completely - that is exactly what I did also. The gloss black ones do "blend" into the front of my black bike (if only I had black hex screws - those shiny heads are noticable).

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