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XRsteve
Posted 2011-05-07 6:54 PM (#85724)
Subject: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Anyone have this new toy?? How are all the features?? Especially interested in the Satelite Weather coverage...
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XRsteve
Posted 2011-05-07 9:34 PM (#85740 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
46 looks and no comments, guess I'll have to ask the question on a Goldwing site, Hahahahaha...................
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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-05-07 10:01 PM (#85741 - in reply to #85740)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN

I've had mine for about a year. Works great on the bike and in the car. It comes with and extra mount to make moving to the car easier. The Vic mount isn't fully functional with the G665. It is possible to get all features working on the bike but it takes a little enginuity (plug modifications,etc.). The XM feature works through a seperate receiver antanna. You must subscribe to XM with nav / traffic / weather. These features are very nice. They enable real time traffic alerts, weather alerts and re-routing. Also forcasts and live radar maps as you travel. It has bluetooth that will play voice commands, xm music etc right into your bluetooth helmet. Although it is pricey I like mine and think it was well worth it. You can purchase lifetime map updates from garmin and then when you connect to garmin's web site through your computer you can download and update your maps about 3-4 times a year. Garmin also has a web site called GarminConnect which allows you to save and keep track of all your travels including many details about each trip. All the info is automatically stored on the GPS for each route. All you have to do is decide which ones to keep and what to name them after uploading to GarminConnect.

Hope this helps.

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XRsteve
Posted 2011-05-07 10:14 PM (#85744 - in reply to #85741)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Thank you............
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-05-07 10:29 PM (#85745 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Mine comes on Monday. I had a real hard time shilling out the dough for this, and almost went with the Nuvi 775(only other series with mp3 and bluetooth transmitter) instead for 1/3 the price, but the glove friendly screen and. XM swayed me. I almost went with the 660 but found out that I would still have to buy a fm traffic antenna.
So, any help getting stereo with the gps wiring harness would be helpful, otherwise I can alway run the aux jack into it.

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flint350
Posted 2011-05-07 10:30 PM (#85746 - in reply to #85744)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 189
Baltimore, Md
Pretty much as HoosierVic described.� You might want to look here:   www.zumoforums.com/index.php      where they have loads of info on the Zumos.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-05-17 11:12 PM (#86544 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Just got everything mounted and my XM subscription paid up ($235/yr). It looks very nice on the bike, I went with the RAM mount system bolted to the holes designed for the Victory mount. It puts the gps a little closer to me while still looking very nice.
I tapped it into the cables designed for the iPod for the power and used the factory mp3 cable to plug into the garmin wiring harness jack - all tucked under the center dash. I know I will not get routing information when I am listening to the radio this way, but I am getting stereo sound for XM and mp3. I only wish Victory would have had stereo connectors for GPS-AUX. Remind you, this is only an issue when I use the crappy FM reception thru the factory stereo, all mp3, XM, and phone audio will work perfectly. I will still get route info thru bluetooth even when listening to FM radio. Both the XM NAV Traffic and NAV Weather are fun to look at and play with. It even tells you where the wind warnings are. I haven't been able to see if it changes your route to avoid traffic or weather yet, but the manual says it will.
The mapping is very fast and easy to read. It does not have a whole lot of settings for map detail(4), but at 'Most Detail' it gives enough street names to keep you aware while still not looking cluttered.
I have used a 'Street Pilot' in my car for the past 4 years, so the interface is very familiar to me and easy to use, not much different on the ZUMO.
I do wish it would remember the last city I looked up. Every time you search for a new address, it asks for the city first. I have started to skip putting it in, then letting it give me a list of cities in the selected state(which does NOT have to be put in each time) that the street address has been found in. It works pretty well for the obscure names, don't know how it would do with 'Main St'.
Different from my Street Pilot, it allows you to drag your finger to move around in the map. My street pilot would only recenter wherever you touched. I like this, but then I start to try to use it like my smartphone and try to pinchzoom or rotate with two fingers. This confuses it and and frustrates me. DRAGGING GOOD - MULTITOUCH BAD! If you want one more like a smartphone, get the 3790, but forget XM and mp3.
It works ok with gloves, there is an option to have 'big keys' or a QWERTY keyboard. The 'big keys' option is set out more like the Zumo 550 where it divides the keys into 4 groups and you must first tell it which group the letter you are looking for is in. I found this very tedious and am relieved to have the QWERTY option (sorry Zumo 550 users).

There is no good way to charge the unit when it is off the bike. Your only options are to remove the battery cover and plug it into a USB power port, or charge it on the car cradle plugged into a 12v dc adapter. If you are charging in with the battery cover off, you cannot use it at the same time, it will tell you to put the cover back on.

I have a 1k road trip next week and I will get to play with it lots. I have already created 5 daily routes using the provided software for my computer (Mapsource) and downloaded them into the ZUMO. Mapsource is not the easiest to use 'out of the box' and takes a while to get used to (I've had it for 6 years and still get frustrated sometimes). It would probably be easier to create your routes in Google or Mapquest, save them as .GPX files and transfer them to the Zumo. Once they are in the GPX folder on the Zumo, you can activate as many or as few as you want, to be in 'Saved Routes' (Routes in the 'Saved Routes list will slow down the GPS when it starts up, files in the GPX folder do not) for whatever trip you are taking.

There are TONS of other features that I have not played with yet. I know 'Track Back' will store the route your motorcycle took, then convert it to a route that you can share with other GPS users. This is great if you just go off exploring, and find an awsome road. Now you can share it.
Not sure when I'd use the language translator or currency converter.
Still waiting for a Vision Motorcycle avatar, but the other motorcycle avatars look pretty cool as well.

I'll post again after my trip if I find out anything you 'need to know before buying'

Darrell



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Thomas
Posted 2011-05-18 8:46 AM (#86560 - in reply to #86544)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Central Wisconsin

Nozzledog       I'll post again after my trip if I find out anything you 'need to know before buying'

 

Darrell,  Your review is excellent on the Garmin 665 and should be posted in the review forum :-)

I'm still using the Zumo 550.  I really got the run around with the XM radio people trying to get the Nav Weather to work.

I was able to get the weather forecast/advisory's to work most of the time but no radar.

Finally the XM people said it was the Zumo 550 not being able to receive it, so I said the heck with it.

I don't know for sure, haven't been on the Zumo forum yet. 

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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-05-18 12:15 PM (#86575 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
I was not aware that the 550 was able to receive weather either. My biggest gripe with XM was the cost. I could get XM radio for $85/yr with special pricing, but if you want traffic or radio, you must pay full price for the whole package. That means traffic and weather costs an additional $13/mo. Most of that info I get thru my android anyway, so I'm not sure of the value there. I'll give it a year and see if it's worth it.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2011-05-18 12:52 PM (#86578 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Rockland, MA United States
Anyone know the screen resolution of the 660, 665, etc.? Wondering if I need to make a widescreen version of the Vision-Rider logo for the gps splash screen.

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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-05-18 1:27 PM (#86585 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
480x272.
I didn't see a way to change the splash screen though.
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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-05-18 6:33 PM (#86606 - in reply to #86585)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN

Great review Nozzle! I've been too lazy to do a good review but you took care of that. I know that some aren't willing to lay down the dough for this particular system but I think for its overall functionality it can't be beat. Especially for those like me that have opted to stay out of the smart phone market. I think on the open road the real time weather map and info is very hard to beat. No stopping to check weather, just pull up the map with one touch of the screen and you immediately know if you are riding into or away from a red cell. Not to mention XM radio and all the other features. Heres an answer to your question about the splash screen.

It is easy to change the splash screen. Connect the 665 to the computer and save a picture to the picture folder on the garmin file.

Unplug the gps from the computer and turn it on.

Touch "tools", then scroll down one screen and touch "Picture Viewer", then touch the picture you want to view.

When it opens touch "Info" at the bottom of the screen. When the next screen appears it will have a box at the bottom left you can check and this will make this picture your new splash picture.

Below I have attached "Vision Riders" splash picture that will fit the screen. 

 



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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-05-19 12:16 AM (#86625 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Looks good!
On a sadder note, the Zumo 665 CANNOT handle a 30" drop from the passenger seat to the ground. It broke the internal antenna. I was so hopeing to use it on my big trip next week.
I guess I will be able to report on Garmin customer service sooner than later.
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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-05-19 10:19 AM (#86636 - in reply to #86625)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN
The on/off switch on mine quit working a month after receiving it. As far as warranty work they were very good and very fast. Good Luck!!
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wesdalton
Posted 2011-05-22 5:39 AM (#86846 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 21
I have had on on my XC for over a year. Nice unit, but some of the address's can't be found on the garmin. There are times I use the gps on my windows smart phone because it can find a address that the garmin can't. Cost for the gps feature on the smart phone $0.00 cost of the Garmin $660.00 you would think it would do better. I am somewhat unhappy with the accuracy on the garmin.
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flint350
Posted 2011-05-22 10:25 AM (#86868 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 189
Baltimore, Md
One way I found to avoid the clunky Mapsource interface is to create routes in Google Maps and then copy the embedded link to that route - you get it by clicking the word "link" in the upper right corner of the Google map screen. Then, simply go to www.gpsvisualizer.com and input that copied link in the Convert window. It will immediately output a gpx file to save and upload to the Zumo. Very quick and simple.

As for the "door open" warning, that is bcz there is a small magnet switch at the top of the unit that mates to a similar spot on the door itself. You simply need to "make" that connection with the door off and the unit will stay operational. One way is to buy a small 3/16" Neodymium magnet and tape or shrink tube it to the side of the usb connector. Then, when you plug it in, the little magnet fools the one in the Zumo into thinking the door is closed and all works fine.
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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-05-22 1:14 PM (#86877 - in reply to #86868)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN

Good point Ray, there are always work-arounds to help things work better. 

As far as improving the functionality and maps, make sure you hook up to the computer and check with garmin often for updates. I have had my 665 for just over a year and I would say I have downloaded no less then ten separate software updates and three map updates so far. The software updates are free and the best deal on the map updates is to buy the lifetime package for your unit for about 80.00 and than you just check while on line.

I have noticed several new features that are on the system since updates were added, especially screen icons for businesses and area road info for the route ahead. 

Today the XM weather saved us big time. We were out in the Indy area and a large storm popped up suddenly southwest of town heading our way. As soon as the weather warning was made the garmin popped up the warning on the screen. I touched the weather Icon and could see which way it was heading and that we had about an hour till we were going to get slammed. All was safe at home in the garage just as the storm arrived. I love my Garmin.

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flint350
Posted 2011-05-22 10:20 PM (#86906 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 189
Baltimore, Md
I just returned from a week long trip through WVA, TNN, VA and back to Baltimore. The wx radar overlay was particularly useful on this trip. It was rain and storms most of the time - it paid for itself on this single trip. The oddity I find with it though is the occasional warning about roads being icy nearby, when the temps are so far above freezing. It also warns of wet roads and closed roads, but icy? Anyway, minor flaw.

I also have the lifetime maps and regularly check the software for updates. The latest firmware update did one thing I don't like. It removed the "music note" icon from the start screen. To listen to XM now (or mp3, etc), you have to go into the tools menu and select it on before the icon shows on the map. This may sound minor, but it means several button pushes to get it going if you are already moving. And it resets that way now after each shutdown - so choosing it "on" does not stick. You have to go through it every time you start. In combination with a MixIt amp, the 665 on the Vision is very handy though.
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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-05-22 10:34 PM (#86908 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN
Ray, how's your touch screen holding up? I try to go easy with mine but it is beginning to show some signs of wear and tare. The picture on the screen is fine but scratches and such are starting to occur.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-05-23 12:29 AM (#86911 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Has anyone put a screen protector on theirs? Does it effect glove use ability?
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flint350
Posted 2011-05-23 10:16 AM (#86930 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 189
Baltimore, Md
Other than the dirt and crud from the rain occasionally obscuring the screen, I didn't notice any real wear. I'm pretty careful with it and have had it since its release in April last year, so it's just over a year old. I'll have to look more closely to see if there are any scratches.
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Kelvininin
Posted 2011-08-12 1:02 PM (#93299 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 188
I have been a long time user of the Zumo 550 with the XM antenna and love it, but a recent purchase of a KTM avendure 990 put a Zumo 665 in my hot little hands and WOW... What a difference and I haven't even mounted it on my bike yet. The 665 is just all around fast, the touch screen is much better, and the weather addition is just awesome!!

I am looking forward to mounting this unit to the Vision and really trying it out.
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viclvr
Posted 2011-08-12 1:16 PM (#93301 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 92
Princeton, MN
Purchased my 665 before my Sturgis trip this year,,great unit! The weather feature allowed us to drive around some nasty storms and big hail...I like the "rain in the area" pop up window,,, which prompts you to check the radar,,xm worked fine too,,, plugged into my mp3 plug and use it in the 4 wheel cage too. thumbs up!
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Turk
Posted 2011-08-12 2:35 PM (#93312 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
I just installed the Victory Zumo 660 on my new Vision and I'm trying to figure out which antenna I need to purchase for traffic, can someone point me in the right direction? I'm thinking it's the GTM-12, since the GTM-20 comes with a cig adapter that I don't need with the Victory gps harness I have. Is that correct?

The harness that plugs the GPS directly into the Vision's wiring harness has a spare female usb connector hanging off of it... I presume that is where the antenna connects. But again, I don't know which one to get, the powered GTM-20 or the GTM-12 ?

Thanks!
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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-08-13 12:36 PM (#93387 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Tourer

Posts: 492
Indianapolis, IN
I have a GTM 12 that I bought with my 665 GPS. I leave it in the truck because I use the XM receiver with the unit when on the bike. The GTM 12 works great and comes with an 18month initial subscription. Your gps will warn you a few days before the subscription runs out that you need to renew. When you do you can renew for life if you still like the GTM 12. I renewed mine a few days ago and use it every time I drive the cage.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-08-14 12:08 AM (#93433 - in reply to #86625)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Nozzledog - 2011-05-18 10:16 PM

Looks good!
On a sadder note, the Zumo 665 CANNOT handle a 30" drop from the passenger seat to the ground. It broke the internal antenna. I was so hopeing to use it on my big trip next week.
I guess I will be able to report on Garmin customer service sooner than later.


Garmin support was great, they gave me an authorization number and told me to return everything to them. I told them many of the components were already installed into the bike, so they told me to just return what I could. 10 days later I had a new unit, with all the extras. Now I have an extra motorcycle mount and XM antenna.
So, I have been using it for about two months now and love it! It works wonderfully with gloves on, even with a screen protector. I bought a liitle visor for it from ebay and it's very readable in all sunny conditions now. Without it, it was a little hard to see in the harsh summer sun.
The only peeves I have;
- The XM radio has to be restarted any time you turn the power off. It only means having to work your way thru two menus, but it would be nice not to. The mp3 music does not have the same issue, it restarts when the power does.
- The maps allow you to touch scroll with a finger drag, but the menus do not. I keep forgetting and try to finger-drag, which causes it to open whatever my finger touches first. You need to remember to use the arrows at the bottom to scroll.
- Mp3 files must be in a 128k compression. I had a slew of 64k file that it would not recognize.
- I ended up turning off the automatic traffic avoidance. I have had it reroute me off a freeway onto surface streets for a 2 min. traffic delay. When I am on the bike, I can usually get through traffic faster than the reroutes it tries to send me on. It also often gives red warning (slow/stopped traffic) when there is no problems. If the whole road is green, and only one or two segments are red, it's probably wrong.

Still haven't got to try the weather avoidance. Sunny skies all around here so far. I may get a chance when I try my Border2Border ride next month.

Edited by Nozzledog 2011-08-14 12:13 AM
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flint350
Posted 2011-08-14 12:37 PM (#93481 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 189
Baltimore, Md
Regarding the XM antenna - The 665 ties the subscription to the antenna, not the receiver. So, while it may be nice to have, you would have to add a subscription to use it. Or you could sell it I suppose.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-08-14 3:22 PM (#93506 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Visionary

Posts: 1228
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
I know, bummer huh. Anyoner wanna buy a XM40 antenna?
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BlueByu
Posted 2011-08-15 9:38 AM (#93587 - in reply to #93312)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 130
Houston, Tx

Turk - 2011-08-12 2:35 PM I just installed the Victory Zumo 660 on my new Vision and I'm trying to figure out which antenna I need to purchase for traffic, can someone point me in the right direction? I'm thinking it's the GTM-12, since the GTM-20 comes with a cig adapter that I don't need with the Victory gps harness I have. Is that correct? The harness that plugs the GPS directly into the Vision's wiring harness has a spare female usb connector hanging off of it... I presume that is where the antenna connects. But again, I don't know which one to get, the powered GTM-20 or the GTM-12 ? Thanks!

You figure this out yet?   It sure would be nice to see weather and possibly traffic on the 660 and have it all nicely wired via Plug-n-Play!

 

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Turk
Posted 2011-08-15 11:08 AM (#93598 - in reply to #93587)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
BlueByu - 2011-08-15 9:38 AM

Turk - 2011-08-12 2:35 PM I just installed the Victory Zumo 660 on my new Vision and I'm trying to figure out which antenna I need to purchase for traffic, can someone point me in the right direction? I'm thinking it's the GTM-12, since the GTM-20 comes with a cig adapter that I don't need with the Victory gps harness I have. Is that correct? The harness that plugs the GPS directly into the Vision's wiring harness has a spare female usb connector hanging off of it... I presume that is where the antenna connects. But again, I don't know which one to get, the powered GTM-20 or the GTM-12 ? Thanks!

You figure this out yet??? It sure would be nice to see weather and possibly traffic on the 660 and have it all nicely wired via Plug-n-Play!

?



The 660 doesn't do weather. And, as I have the Victory XM radio, I don't need that functionality from the GPS, but it would be nice to have traffic. The way I see it, there are two antenna choices.... the GTM20 and the GTM12. It appears that the only difference is that the 20 has a cigarette lighter plug, and the 12 does not.
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BlueByu
Posted 2011-08-15 1:34 PM (#93612 - in reply to #93598)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 130
Houston, Tx

Hmmmm, found this old thread in a GPS discussion forum....  guess I'm a bit confused now, but nothing new 'bout that!  LOL !!

Turk - 2011-08-15 11:08 AM The 660 doesn't do weather. And, as I have the Victory XM radio, I don't need that functionality from the GPS, but it would be nice to have traffic. The way I see it, there are two antenna choices.... the GTM20 and the GTM12. It appears that the only difference is that the 20 has a cigarette lighter plug, and the 12 does not.

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Turk
Posted 2011-08-15 2:45 PM (#93628 - in reply to #93612)
Subject: RE: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
BlueByu - 2011-08-15 1:34 PM

Hmmmm, found this old thread in a GPS discussion forum....? guess I'm a bit confused now, but nothing new 'bout that!? LOL !!

Turk - 2011-08-15 11:08 AM The 660 doesn't do weather. And, as I have the Victory XM radio, I don't need that functionality from the GPS, but it would be nice to have traffic. The way I see it, there are two antenna choices.... the GTM20 and the GTM12. It appears that the only difference is that the 20 has a cigarette lighter plug, and the 12 does not.



Good find. Unfortunately, I read on Garmin's site that MSN Direct will be discontinued at the end of the year, so it would only be a short term solution and a lot of expense.
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ScoreBo
Posted 2011-10-11 7:12 AM (#98791 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Resurrecting this thread as I just bought the 665 for my 2011 and want to help others that want the XM to work without a lot of fuss. I had the dealer install the Garmin 660 mount on the bike and discovered that the XM antenna could not be found on my 665. I read a number of threads on the Internet, but not a lot of folks post about our mount & harness. I did find a post over at ZumoForums that showed differences in the electronic boards that are inside of the actual mount itself. I also verified that the usb connector on the harnesses are wired the same.

The fix is easy - simply swap the front of the mount where the GPS unit attaches to (including the electronic board (PCB)) and the XM antenna will then be recognized. No need to go into custom wiring.

Oh yeah, Garmin tech support sucks! Their default answer is to wire in the mount that came in the box and won't give you any "real" help at all.
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Turk
Posted 2011-10-11 8:40 AM (#98797 - in reply to #98791)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
ScoreBo - 2011-10-11 7:12 AM

Resurrecting this thread as I just bought the 665 for my 2011 and want to help others that want the XM to work without a lot of fuss. I had the dealer install the Garmin 660 mount on the bike and discovered that the XM antenna could not be found on my 665. I read a number of threads on the Internet, but not a lot of folks post about our mount & harness. I did find a post over at ZumoForums that showed differences in the electronic boards that are inside of the actual mount itself. I also verified that the usb connector on the harnesses are wired the same.

The fix is easy - simply swap the front of the mount where the GPS unit attaches to (including the electronic board (PCB)) and the XM antenna will then be recognized. No need to go into custom wiring.

Oh yeah, Garmin tech support sucks! Their default answer is to wire in the mount that came in the box and won't give you any "real" help at all.


How is this "swap" accomplished? Cutting and splicing wires ?
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KCVic
Posted 2011-10-26 8:26 AM (#99905 - in reply to #98791)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Cruiser

Posts: 57
Kansas City, MO
ScoreBo - 2011-10-11 7:12 AM

The fix is easy - simply swap the front of the mount where the GPS unit attaches to (including the electronic board (PCB)) and the XM antenna will then be recognized. No need to go into custom wiring.


Thanks for the info ScoreBo! I'm going to look into getting the 665 installed.
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Turk
Posted 2011-10-26 8:48 AM (#99906 - in reply to #98791)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
ScoreBo - 2011-10-11 7:12 AM

Resurrecting this thread as I just bought the 665 for my 2011 and want to help others that want the XM to work without a lot of fuss. I had the dealer install the Garmin 660 mount on the bike and discovered that the XM antenna could not be found on my 665. I read a number of threads on the Internet, but not a lot of folks post about our mount & harness. I did find a post over at ZumoForums that showed differences in the electronic boards that are inside of the actual mount itself. I also verified that the usb connector on the harnesses are wired the same.

The fix is easy - simply swap the front of the mount where the GPS unit attaches to (including the electronic board (PCB)) and the XM antenna will then be recognized. No need to go into custom wiring.

Oh yeah, Garmin tech support sucks! Their default answer is to wire in the mount that came in the box and won't give you any "real" help at all.


Still not following you on the swap of the front of the mount. That mount has a molded wire harness coming out of it with a connector meant to plug directly into the empty plug on the bike. The one that comes with the zumo itself has a different wire harness that won't plug into the cable harness on the bike directly.... so there must be something more to it....
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ScoreBo
Posted 2011-10-26 10:11 AM (#99913 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
If you remove the seven (7) small screws from the GPS mount, you will find two sets of wires (a power & ground and the audio wires).

Maybe these pictures will help.
FRONT - ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS ARE 7 SCREWS - Remove them to split the mount apart.


BACKSIDE OF THE FRONT / PICTURE ABOVE after screw removal - THIS IS WHAT GETS SWAPPED - I replaced this whole front and didn't remove the board from the plastic. Why bother.


BACK OF MOUNT


Edited by ScoreBo 2011-10-26 10:22 AM
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ScoreBo
Posted 2011-10-26 10:20 AM (#99914 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
After the swap, XM and audio out worked. I have yet to confirm if mic in works, but will test that tonight. With my 2008, I never paired my cell phone to the bike. I just did with my 2011, but have yet to use it.
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Turk
Posted 2011-10-26 1:02 PM (#99925 - in reply to #99914)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
AWESOME!!! Thanks for the pics!

What XM antenna are you using? I presume it plugs into the USB port coming off of the harness? Have you tried the weather radar yet?

Edited by Turk 2011-10-26 1:03 PM
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Turk
Posted 2011-10-26 1:33 PM (#99927 - in reply to #99925)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
Nevermind on the antenna question, I now see that they come with the GXM 40....
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ScoreBo
Posted 2011-10-26 3:42 PM (#99932 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Weather radar and traffic work great. I opted not to get XM radio. I very rarely used it on my 08 and didn't want to pay for it (it is way more expensive than the radar and traffic).
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ScoreBo
Posted 2011-10-26 5:54 PM (#99948 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
A small word of caution on this - watch the springs inside the mount. The one for the side release button likes to fly.
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Turk
Posted 2011-10-27 1:38 PM (#100027 - in reply to #99948)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
This is awesome! I'm gonna go pick up the 665 from Garmin's HQ, since it's 5 blocks from my house. Will be selling my 660. I still have the original box and all the stuff that came with it. Guess I can also sell my separate Victory XM radio system too. Can any of the GPS's XM radio functions (or mp3 for that matter) be controlled from the bike's grip switches or console buttons?

Need to research how to xfer my favorites over...

Edited by Turk 2011-10-27 1:42 PM
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Turk
Posted 2011-10-27 2:52 PM (#100034 - in reply to #99932)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
ScoreBo - 2011-10-26 3:42 PM

Weather radar and traffic work great. I opted not to get XM radio. I very rarely used it on my 08 and didn't want to pay for it (it is way more expensive than the radar and traffic).


I was looking at the Sirius package subscriptions and didn't see an option to just get weather without radio. Also, in the channel lineup, it looked like all the weather stations were specific to about 9 major cities only:

132 Boston/Philadelphia/Pittsburgh News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
133 New York News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
134 Washington, DC/Baltimore/Atlanta News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
135 Chicago/Detroit News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
136 Miami/Orlando/Tampa-St. Pete News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
137 Dallas-Ft. Worth/Houston/Phoenix News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
138 St. Louis/Minneapolis/Las Vegas News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
139 San Francisco/Seattle/San Diego News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather
140 Los Angeles News & Issues Traffic/Weather Traffic & Weather

Since I don't live in any of these areas, is the 665 a waste for me?

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Webhair
Posted 2011-10-27 3:02 PM (#100037 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA
Volume and channel
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ScoreBo
Posted 2011-10-27 3:41 PM (#100043 - in reply to #85724)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Turk, with the weather, you are getting radar and forecasts on the screen, not the audio feeds for certain cities. I couldn't do just weather and traffic online. I had to call in and talk to a customer service representative.

http://www.siriusxm.com/navweather/pricing


Like this


Edited by ScoreBo 2011-10-27 3:43 PM
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Turk
Posted 2011-11-05 2:30 PM (#100742 - in reply to #100043)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
I picked mine up yesterday at Garmin's world HQ..... hooked it all up today thanks to Scorebro!!!! Works great! Paid the annual subscription for XM radio, traffic, and weather.....

Guess I'd better put my Victory XM radio up for sale now.... any takers? Comes with the auxiliary harness that connects a CD changer too....

Edited by Turk 2011-11-05 2:32 PM
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Turk
Posted 2011-11-08 8:24 AM (#100998 - in reply to #100742)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
A bonus is that I can now cancel my bluetooth dongle that is on back order!!!!!


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whatdahek
Posted 2014-09-28 12:14 AM (#167101 - in reply to #99913)
Subject: Re: Garmin 665


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 5
Trying to find a diagram to the mount for the Garmin to work?
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